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From: Srikanth Sundaresan <srikanth@gatech.edu>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: bismark-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Bismark-devel] about ready to do another build
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 18:33:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <58F7BFB9-8382-427A-986C-5FAFB90A8DD4@gatech.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=XoFZBw_Y0mcx4GAnp1ord1iTqAw@mail.gmail.com>


On May 21, 2011, at 6:08 PM, Dave Taht wrote:

> 
> 
> On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Srikanth Sundaresan <srikanth@gatech.edu> wrote:
> I do not have a problem with it when we know the effective bandwidth. My question is, what when do not? We cannot rely on volunteers to give us reliable information on that.
> 
> I say we turn it *on only while testing*. That too, after we get an idea about each user's bandwidth. THis is feature that, in its current form needs to be tailored to each user. It is not a good idea to give everyone a default setting - as I mentioned in my previous email, unless we hit bulls eye (unlikely), it is either crippling, or useless.
>  
> It could potentially seriously downgrade user experience.
> 
> 
> What part about 800ms latencies under load without QoS isn't about  a degraded user experience?

If the cost of reduced upload speed,  which could perhaps be as much as 30%, (if the default is 340kbps - the DSL connection here in my B&B gets up to 450k), can't be reduced, I certainly think that it's the higher price to pay than reduced latency.

- Srikanth


  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-21 16:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-20 20:27 Dave Taht
2011-05-20 21:40 ` Nick Feamster
2011-05-20 21:41   ` Nick Feamster
2011-05-20 22:11     ` Dave Taht
2011-05-20 22:12       ` Nick Feamster
2011-05-20 22:15         ` Dave Taht
2011-05-20 22:16           ` Nick Feamster
2011-05-20 22:28             ` Dave Taht
2011-05-20 22:35               ` Nick Feamster
2011-05-20 22:42                 ` Dave Taht
2011-05-20 22:47                   ` Dave Taht
2011-05-20 23:22                     ` Nick Feamster
2011-05-20 23:27                       ` Dave Taht
2011-05-20 23:29                         ` Nick Feamster
2011-05-20 23:27                     ` Nick Feamster
2011-05-21  8:12         ` Srikanth Sundaresan
2011-05-21 12:09           ` Nick Feamster
     [not found]           ` <BANLkTikzEnRk8D0D4yR-4smqPiMYW0OH4A@mail.gmail.com>
2011-05-21 15:48             ` Srikanth Sundaresan
2011-05-21 16:08               ` Dave Taht
2011-05-21 16:33                 ` Srikanth Sundaresan [this message]
2011-05-21 16:49                   ` Dave Taht
2011-05-21 16:53                     ` Nick Feamster
2011-05-21 17:07                     ` Srikanth Sundaresan
2011-05-23 13:20                     ` Jim Gettys

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