Re: [Bismark-users] coping with conflicts

[d@taht.net (Dave Täht)]

One of the things in the upcoming writing queue is a string of articles
for the ACM, case studies. Would you be interested in that? 

Are there other publication targets?

Nick Feamster <feamster@cc.gatech.edu> writes:

> I think we are both interested in:
>
> - measuring the current state of affairs (as a baseline)
> - designing techniques to try to improve latencies/problems
> - measuring how well respective techniques improve latencies/problems
>
> On Mar 15, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Dave Täht wrote:
>
>> Nick Feamster <feamster@cc.gatech.edu> writes:
>> 
>>> I agree.
>> 
>> To what? :)
>> 
>> Would you consider your existing study "ground truth" and the upcoming
>> one "revealed truth"?
>> 
>> When I talked to de-heisenberging below, the goal would be to eliminate
>> or at least compensate/understand the factors introduced by the
>> measurement box.
>> 
>> Measuring cable modem and DSL latencies/problems and the internet
>> itself, remain a goal, but, for example, the end-user experience of
>> using the box itself with some/much of the new stuff is important to
>> us. 
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 15, 2011, at 2:43 PM, Srikanth Sundaresan wrote:
>>> 
>>>> It seems to me that they can coexist; to study the impact of the
>>>> changes, we do need to know the existing ground truth, no?
>>>> 
>>>> - Srikanth
>>>> 
>>>> On 03/15/2011 02:42 PM, Dave Täht wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have some conflicts that I would like to clearly resolve as we ramp
>>>>> up.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1) The bufferbloat project is trying to fix the internet
>>>>> 2) you are trying to study the internet as it exists
>>>>> 
>>>>> While some of the bufferbloat fixes in the pipeline will de-heisenberg your
>>>>> measurements, the two ideas do conflict somewhat as does your schedule
>>>>> vs ours. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The wndr3700, which 6+ people have now, is looking to become a focus of
>>>>> our efforts for item 1, and may ultimately become a model for the
>>>>> "perfect router". (Although I would bet on the upcoming 32MB flash stuff
>>>>> coming out later this year as a better model)
>>>>> 
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