Re: [Bismark-users] coping with conflicts

[d@taht.net (Dave Täht)]

Nick Feamster <feamster@cc.gatech.edu> writes:

> I agree.

To what? :)

Would you consider your existing study "ground truth" and the upcoming
one "revealed truth"?

When I talked to de-heisenberging below, the goal would be to eliminate
or at least compensate/understand the factors introduced by the
measurement box.

Measuring cable modem and DSL latencies/problems and the internet
itself, remain a goal, but, for example, the end-user experience of
using the box itself with some/much of the new stuff is important to
us. 

>
> On Mar 15, 2011, at 2:43 PM, Srikanth Sundaresan wrote:
>
>> It seems to me that they can coexist; to study the impact of the
>> changes, we do need to know the existing ground truth, no?
>> 
>> - Srikanth
>> 
>> On 03/15/2011 02:42 PM, Dave Täht wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have some conflicts that I would like to clearly resolve as we ramp
>>> up.
>>> 
>>> 1) The bufferbloat project is trying to fix the internet
>>> 2) you are trying to study the internet as it exists
>>> 
>>> While some of the bufferbloat fixes in the pipeline will de-heisenberg your
>>> measurements, the two ideas do conflict somewhat as does your schedule
>>> vs ours. 
>>> 
>>> The wndr3700, which 6+ people have now, is looking to become a focus of
>>> our efforts for item 1, and may ultimately become a model for the
>>> "perfect router". (Although I would bet on the upcoming 32MB flash stuff
>>> coming out later this year as a better model)
>>> 
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