From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-31-ewr.dyndns.com (mxout-030-ewr.mailhop.org [216.146.33.30]) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E1332E0271 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 11:42:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scan-32-ewr.mailhop.org (scan-32-ewr.local [10.0.141.238]) by mail-31-ewr.dyndns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C60156F808E for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:42:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 () X-Mail-Handler: MailHop by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 75.145.127.229 Received: from gw.co.teklibre.org (75-145-127-229-Colorado.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [75.145.127.229]) by mail-31-ewr.dyndns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0EEA6F78A2 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:42:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cruithne.co.teklibre.org (unknown [IPv6:2002:4b91:7fe5:1::20]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cruithne.co.teklibre.org", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (verified OK)) by gw.co.teklibre.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A77C5EA31 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 12:42:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: by cruithne.co.teklibre.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9EAA712085C; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 12:42:38 -0600 (MDT) From: d@taht.net (Dave =?utf-8?Q?T=C3=A4ht?=) To: bismark-users Organization: Teklibre - http://www.teklibre.com Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 12:42:38 -0600 Message-ID: <87y64gfco1.fsf@cruithne.co.teklibre.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Bismark-users] coping with conflicts X-BeenThere: bismark-users@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:42:47 -0000 I have some conflicts that I would like to clearly resolve as we ramp up. 1) The bufferbloat project is trying to fix the internet 2) you are trying to study the internet as it exists While some of the bufferbloat fixes in the pipeline will de-heisenberg your measurements, the two ideas do conflict somewhat as does your schedule vs ours. The wndr3700, which 6+ people have now, is looking to become a focus of our efforts for item 1, and may ultimately become a model for the "perfect router". (Although I would bet on the upcoming 32MB flash stuff coming out later this year as a better model) -- Dave Taht http://nex-6.taht.net