From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-23-ewr.dyndns.com (mxout-030-ewr.mailhop.org [216.146.33.30]) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A5C2E0271 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 11:48:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scan-22-ewr.mailhop.org (scan-22-ewr.local [10.0.141.244]) by mail-23-ewr.dyndns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE4714154C for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:48:18 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 () X-Mail-Handler: MailHop by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 130.207.160.71 Received: from deliverator6.gatech.edu (deliverator6.gatech.edu [130.207.160.71]) by mail-23-ewr.dyndns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AEB14151A for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:48:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id C94A220C17F for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:48:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from deliverator6.gatech.edu by deliverator6.gatech.edu with queue id 1611448-5 for bismark-users@lists.bufferbloat.net; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:47:56 GMT Received: from mail1.gatech.edu (mail1.gatech.edu [130.207.185.161]) by deliverator6.gatech.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D34F320C18F; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:47:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.43.49] (unknown [32.161.92.80]) (Authenticated sender: nf21@mail.gatech.edu) by mail1.gatech.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C6CDCC2EEB; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:47:53 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Nick Feamster In-Reply-To: <4D7FB356.2000407@gatech.edu> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:47:42 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <87y64gfco1.fsf@cruithne.co.teklibre.org> <4D7FB356.2000407@gatech.edu> To: Srikanth Sundaresan X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Cc: bismark-users@lists.bufferbloat.net Subject: Re: [Bismark-users] coping with conflicts X-BeenThere: bismark-users@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:48:20 -0000 I agree. On Mar 15, 2011, at 2:43 PM, Srikanth Sundaresan wrote: > It seems to me that they can coexist; to study the impact of the > changes, we do need to know the existing ground truth, no? >=20 > - Srikanth >=20 > On 03/15/2011 02:42 PM, Dave T=E4ht wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >> I have some conflicts that I would like to clearly resolve as we ramp >> up. >>=20 >> 1) The bufferbloat project is trying to fix the internet >> 2) you are trying to study the internet as it exists >>=20 >> While some of the bufferbloat fixes in the pipeline will = de-heisenberg your >> measurements, the two ideas do conflict somewhat as does your = schedule >> vs ours.=20 >>=20 >> The wndr3700, which 6+ people have now, is looking to become a focus = of >> our efforts for item 1, and may ultimately become a model for the >> "perfect router". (Although I would bet on the upcoming 32MB flash = stuff >> coming out later this year as a better model) >>=20 > _______________________________________________ > Bismark-users mailing list > Bismark-users@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bismark-users