From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-14-iad.dyndns.com (mxout-065-iad.mailhop.org [216.146.32.65]) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 296C82E005A for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 01:37:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scan-12-iad.mailhop.org (scan-12-iad.local [10.150.0.209]) by mail-14-iad.dyndns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1F3E44B3C6 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 08:37:51 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 () X-Mail-Handler: MailHop by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 192.132.34.62 Received: from smtp2.unina.it (smtp2.unina.it [192.132.34.62]) by mail-14-iad.dyndns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3937C44B3C5 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 08:37:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qy0-f178.google.com (mail-qy0-f178.google.com [209.85.216.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp2.unina.it (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p2G8bj58027081 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:37:46 +0100 Received: by qyk2 with SMTP id 2so1330573qyk.16 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 01:37:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.8.212 with SMTP id i20mr369557qci.22.1300264664811; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 01:37:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.9.200 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 01:37:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.9.200 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 01:37:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4D7FBE98.9060309@gatech.edu> References: <87y64gfco1.fsf@cruithne.co.teklibre.org> <4D7FB356.2000407@gatech.edu> <87tyf4fc42.fsf@cruithne.co.teklibre.org> <587F76A9-5EED-4D3D-B339-DE3979F50853@cc.gatech.edu> <87pqpsfbql.fsf@cruithne.co.teklibre.org> <93D811CA-EA9E-4F1F-9157-AD5877AE99F1@cc.gatech.edu> <4D7FBE98.9060309@gatech.edu> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:37:44 +0100 Message-ID: From: Walter de Donato To: Srikanth Sundaresan Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e649840c75ca88049e9575e9 Cc: bismark-users@lists.bufferbloat.net Subject: Re: [Bismark-users] coping with conflicts X-BeenThere: bismark-users@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 08:37:54 -0000 --0016e649840c75ca88049e9575e9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a web interface already working for my Italian project. You can take a look through the client by selecting "statistiche" from the tray icon menu. Also Tony is doing something similar in the hndr context. -Walter Il giorno 15/mar/2011 20.33, "Srikanth Sundaresan" ha scritto: > Another thing we could do is provide an interface for people to look at > plots, rather than provide them with the raw data. We can always provide > raw data upon request (after we take a first stab at trying to publish it). > > > On 03/15/2011 03:24 PM, Nick Feamster wrote: >> I think that sharing the active measurements could be done without IRB issues, but we should double-check. >> >> Another issue is that we want to publish on the data before other people= . :-) So, perhaps releasing smaller samples early and the full data down the road (once papers get accepted) would be a good compromise? >> >> -Nick >> >> On Mar 15, 2011, at 3:19 PM, Poole, Brian wrote: >> >>> Random follow-on as I've been chatting with Dave a bit in parallel on IRC as well. He mentioned getting a few things up on the shared site would help collaboration. The two biggies being our test script infrastructure an= d the raw data we collect. >>> >>> I don't imagine sharing the testing scripts would cause any big issues; it would be mostly just be logistics of getting it up/documented and deciding whether that becomes the authoritative development source. >>> >>> Sharing the raw data collected stuck out to me as a harder issue. Is that possible with the way previous studies have been run (ie, does the IRB cause headaches here) ? >>> >>> Brian >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: bismark-users-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net [ bismark-users-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net] on behalf of Nick Feamster [ feamster@cc.gatech.edu] >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 3:06 PM >>> To: Dave T=E4ht >>> Cc: bismark-users@lists.bufferbloat.net >>> Subject: Re: [Bismark-users] coping with conflicts >>> >>> On Mar 15, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Dave T=E4ht wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> One of the things in the upcoming writing queue is a string of article= s >>>> for the ACM, case studies. Would you be interested in that? >>>> >>> >>> Yes, definitely. >>> >>> >>>> Are there other publication targets? >>> >>> ACM Internet measurement conference (may deadline) ACM Sigmetrics (nov deadline) and ACM Sigcomm (jan deadline) seem like natural targets, too. >>> >>> -Nick >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Bismark-users mailing list >>> Bismark-users@lists.bufferbloat.net >>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bismark-users >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Bismark-users mailing list >>> Bismark-users@lists.bufferbloat.net >>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bismark-users >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bismark-users mailing list >> Bismark-users@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bismark-users > _______________________________________________ > Bismark-users mailing list > Bismark-users@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bismark-users > --0016e649840c75ca88049e9575e9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have a web interface already
working for my Italian project.
You can take a look through the client by selecting "statistiche"= from the tray icon menu.

Also Tony is doing something similar in the hndr context.

-Walter

Il giorno 15/mar/2011 20.33, "Srikanth Sund= aresan" <srikanth@gatech.edu= > ha scritto:
> Another thing we could do= is provide an interface for people to look at
> plots, rather than provide them with the raw data. We can always provi= de
> raw data upon request (after we take a first stab at trying to p= ublish it).
>
>
> On 03/15/2011 03:24 PM, Nick Feamster= wrote:
>> I think that sharing the active measurements could be done without= IRB issues, but we should double-check.
>>
>> Another i= ssue is that we want to publish on the data before other people. :-) So, p= erhaps releasing smaller samples early and the full data down the road (onc= e papers get accepted) would be a good compromise?
>>
>> -Nick
>>
>> On Mar 15, 2011, at 3:= 19 PM, Poole, Brian wrote:
>>
>>> Random follow-on as= I've been chatting with Dave a bit in parallel on IRC as well. He ment= ioned getting a few things up on the shared site would help collaboration. = The two biggies being our test script infrastructure and the raw data we co= llect.
>>>
>>> I don't imagine sharing the testing script= s would cause any big issues; it would be mostly just be logistics of getti= ng it up/documented and deciding whether that becomes the authoritative dev= elopment source.
>>>
>>> Sharing the raw data collected stuck out to me= as a harder issue. Is that possible with the way previous studies have bee= n run (ie, does the IRB cause headaches here) ?
>>>
>>= > Brian
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From:= bismark-use= rs-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net [bismark-users-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net] = on behalf of Nick Feamster [feams= ter@cc.gatech.edu]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 3:06 PM
>>> To: Dave= T=E4ht
>>> Cc: bismark-users@lists.bufferbloat.net
>>> Subject: Re= : [Bismark-users] coping with conflicts
>>>
>>> On Mar 15, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Dave T=E4ht wrote= :
>>>
>>>>
>>>> One of the things= in the upcoming writing queue is a string of articles
>>>> = for the ACM, case studies. Would you be interested in that?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, definitely.
>&g= t;>
>>>
>>>> Are there other publication targ= ets?
>>>
>>> ACM Internet measurement conference (m= ay deadline) ACM Sigmetrics (nov deadline) and ACM Sigcomm (jan deadline) s= eem like natural targets, too.
>>>
>>> -Nick
>>> ________________________= _______________________
>>> Bismark-users mailing list
>&= gt;> Bismark-user= s@lists.bufferbloat.net
>>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bismark-users
>>>= _______________________________________________
>>> Bismark-us= ers mailing list
>>> Bismark= -users@lists.bufferbloat.net
>>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listin= fo/bismark-users
>>
>> _______________________________________________
&g= t;> Bismark-users mailing list
>> Bismark-users@lists.bufferbloat.net
>&g= t; https:/= /lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bismark-users
> _______________________________________________
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> Bismark-users@lists.bufferbloat.net
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