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From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: "David Täht" <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, bloat-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: Asserting ECN from userspace?
Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 07:23:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1317964989.3457.39.camel@edumazet-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E8BF6B2.6030101@gmail.com>

Le mardi 04 octobre 2011 à 23:18 -0700, David Täht a écrit :
> No sooner had I noted (with pleasure) the kernel's new ability to
> correctly set the dscp bits on IPv6 TCP streams without messing with the
> negotiated ECN status, that I found several use cases where being able
> to assert ECN from userspace (for either ipv4, or ipv6) would be useful.
> 
> 1) Applications such as bittorrent (transmission, etc) that are much
> more aware of their overall environment could assert ECN on their UDP
> streams to indicate congestion.
> 
> 2) Test tools. It would be nice to be able, from userspace, to easily
> diagnose if ECN was working on a stream, end to end, and being able to
> set and receive the ECN bits on a less algorithmic basis (ie, not wedged
> deep within a kernel aqm such as RED or SFB)
> 
> 3) Web Proxies. A web proxy could note when it was experiencing
> congestion on one side of the proxied connection (or another) and signal
> the other side to slow down.
> 
> Ah, ECN, we hardly know ye.
> 
> as for item 1 I'm hard pressed to think of a case where setting the ECN
> bits on udp streams would introduce a security problem.
> 
> As for 2, can live without.
> 
> As for 3... perhaps a grantable network capability? A proxy could
> acquire privs to twiddle those bits before dropping root privs.
> 
> That begs the question of how to see those bits in the first place. OOB
> data?
> 
> And twiddling them, on a per stream basis, for a single packet, would
> seem to require something more robust than setsockopt/getsockopt
> (although that would work for udp streams)
> 

For UDP, its really easy to set ECT(0) or ECT(1) in your outgoing
frames, and test as well ECT(0),ECT(1),ECN in incoming frames.

For the sending part:
int tos = 0x2; /* ECT(1) */
setsockopt(fd, IP_PROTOIP, IP_TOS, &tos, sizeof(tos));

To be able to get the TOS value :

int on = 1;
setsockopt(fd, IP_PROTOIP, IP_RECVTOS, &on, sizeof(on));

RECVTOS (since Linux 2.2)
     If  enabled the IP_TOS ancillary message is passed with incoming packets.
     It contains a byte which specifies the Type of Service/Precedence
     field of the packet header.  Expects a boolean integer flag.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-10-07  5:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-05  6:18 David Täht
2011-10-06 23:52 ` Andi Kleen
2011-10-07  5:23 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2011-10-07 17:25 ` Rick Jones
2011-10-13 11:30 ` Juliusz Chroboczek

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