From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp171.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp171.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.171]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DFDD621F107; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:25:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp47.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8DDF53A820A; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 13:25:01 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: from legacy18.wa-web.iad1a (legacy18.wa-web.iad1a.rsapps.net [192.168.4.108]) by smtp47.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5CCC43A818A; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 13:25:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from reed.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by legacy18.wa-web.iad1a (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C2E736002E; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 13:25:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by apps.rackspace.com (Authenticated sender: dpreed@reed.com, from: dpreed@reed.com) with HTTP; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 13:25:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 13:25:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re=3A_=5BCerowrt-devel=5D_hardware_hacking_on_fq=5Fcodel_in_FPG?= =?utf-8?Q?A_form_at_10GigE?= From: dpreed@reed.com To: "Jim Gettys" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_20121221132501000000_99426" Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Type: html In-Reply-To: References: <20121220103213.4ABAD800037@ip-64-139-1-69.sjc.megapath.net> <1356011592.2372508@apps.rackspace.com> <1356112139.35814863@apps.rackspace.com> Message-ID: <1356114301.310221396@apps.rackspace.com> X-Mailer: webmail7.0 Cc: "codel@lists.bufferbloat.net" , bloat-devel , "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" X-BeenThere: bloat-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers working on AQM, device drivers, and networking stacks" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 18:25:03 -0000 ------=_20121221132501000000_99426 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0AI'm sure the HSPA+ modem is a binary blob. For regulatory reasons, if n= othing else...=0A =0AWhen I said open, I did not mean the ultimate ideal. = Hardware devices with firmware are often sold as black boxes.=0A =0AFixing = the bloat in HSPA+ and LTE systems will require organizations like Ericsson= , ALU and Cisco and Huawei to get their acts together and fix their own bug= s.=0A =0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: "Jim Gettys" =0ASent: Friday, December 21, 2012 1:14pm=0ATo: "David P Reed" =0ACc: "Dave Taht" , "bloat-devel" , "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" , "codel@lists.bufferbloat.net" =0ASubject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] hardware hacking on fq_codel in = FPGA form at 10GigE=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 12:48= PM, <[mailto:dpreed@reed.com] dpreed@reed.com> wrote:=0A=0AAnd if you wan= t an open tablet the ODROID U2 there is pretty nice for <$900 all in, inclu= ding an HSPA+ modem w/GPS. I can only imagine what one can do with this..= ..=0AOften the modem bits are binary blobs. Any information on this front?= =0A- Jim=0A=0A=0A =0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: "Dave Taht" <[mailt= o:dave.taht@gmail.com] dave.taht@gmail.com>=0ASent: Friday, December 21, 20= 12 7:34am=0ATo: [mailto:dpreed@reed.com] dpreed@reed.com=0A Cc: "Hal Murray= " <[mailto:hmurray@megapathdsl.net] hmurray@megapathdsl.net>, "bloat-devel"= <[mailto:bloat-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net] bloat-devel@lists.bufferbloat.= net>, [mailto:codel@lists.bufferbloat.net] codel@lists.bufferbloat.net, [ma= ilto:cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net] cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.n= et=0A Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] hardware hacking on fq_codel in FPGA for= m at 10GigE=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AIt really is astounding what is going on in the a= rm world:=0A=0A[http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.p= hp?g_code=3DG135341370451] http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/= prdt_info.php?g_code=3DG135341370451=0A=0A=0A> The wndr3700v4 is out, and a= ppears to be a good hardware upgrade from=0A> the 3800 series, but it's not= supported by openwrt yet.=0A>=0A > I took a look at their GPL source distr= ibution. And yea! it's openwrt.=0A> And boo! it's ancient openwrt, for exam= ple dnsmasq is 2.39 (current is=0A> 2.64), and their kernel is 2.6.31.=0A>= =0A> I think the cpu and ethernet chips tho look a lot better: Atheros=0A >= AR9344+ AR9580(5GHz)+AR9344(2.4GHz). It's my hope these do ipv6=0A> better= .=0A>=0A> I have looked at similar products from buffalo and others, would = like=0A> external antennas and a good switch this time around. 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= I'm sure the HSPA+ modem is a binary blob.  For regulatory reasons, if= nothing else...

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When I said open, I did not mean the ultimate id= eal.  Hardware devices with firmware are often sold as black boxes.=0A

 

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Fixing the bloat in HSPA+ and LTE systems will require organization= s like Ericsson, ALU and Cisco and Huawei to get their acts together and fi= x their own bugs.

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Cc: "Dave Taht" <da= ve.taht@gmail.com>, "bloat-devel" <bloat-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net&= gt;, "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" <cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbl= oat.net>, "codel@lists.bufferbloat.net" <codel@lists.bufferbloat.net&= gt;
Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] hardware hacking on fq_codel in FPGA = form at 10GigE

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And if you want an open tablet the ODROID U2 there is pretty nic= e for <$900 all in, including an HSPA+ modem w/GPS.   I can on= ly imagine what one can do with this....

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-----Original Message-----From: "Dave Taht" <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 7:= 34am
To: dpreed@r= eed.com
Cc: "Hal Murray" <hmurray@megapathdsl.net>, "bloat-devel" <= ;blo= at-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net>, codel@lists.bufferbloat.net, cerowrt-devel@= lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] hardware hacki= ng on fq_codel in FPGA form at 10GigE

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I= t really is astounding what is going on in the arm world:

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> The= wndr3700v4 is out, and appears to be a good hardware upgrade from
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> I th= ink the cpu and ethernet chips tho look a lot better: Atheros
> AR= 9344+ AR9580(5GHz)+AR9344(2.4GHz). It's my hope these do ipv6
> bet= ter.
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> I have looked at similar products from buffalo and= others, would like
> external antennas and a good switch this time= around. Thoughts?
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> Dave T=C3=A4ht
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> Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt: http://www.teklibre.com/cer= owrt/subscribe.html=0A
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