From: Hal Murray <hmurray@megapathdsl.net>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: bloat-devel <bloat-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
codel@lists.bufferbloat.net, cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: hardware hacking on fq_codel in FPGA form at 10GigE
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 02:32:13 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121220103213.4ABAD800037@ip-64-139-1-69.sjc.megapath.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Message from Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> of "Thu, 20 Dec 2012 04:26:37 EST." <CAA93jw7Hr3fiVf3n9u4f6s4HHaBjzcbFN558On+fBcJ9WGYusg@mail.gmail.com>
dave.taht@gmail.com said:
>> If I was going to do something like that, I'd build a small/simple CPU
>> the work in microcode.
> There are two ppc 440 cpus already onboard the 10GigE device, I think. It's
> a REALLY NICE fpga.
> I'd also looked at the octeon and the latest arm chipset from TI which I
> can't remember the codename for at the moment...
I wasn't thinking of a traditional general purpose CPU but rather something
special for this problem.
>> How many lines of assembler code would it take?
> I could do a dump of the current code into any given assembly language. It's
> not a lot, but there are a lot of out of band functions.
I didn't mean lines of traditional assembly code. If we want to pursue this,
pick a chunk of c code (not too big) and break it into "lines" where
everything on a line can be executed at the same time. I'll try to sketch a
"CPU" and write the microcode.
> The enqueue and dequeue algorithms are entirely decoupled, with the
> exception of this error handling phase of (out of queue space) One thought
> would be to track packet count on enqueue (this is more "sfq"-like than
> fq_codel-like) which still has a tiny lock...
Stuff that can be reasonably done in the driver should probably be done there
if it saves a lot of work for the microcode. Avoiding out-of-queue-space
might be a good example.
> Well there are a few things that would benefit from moving directly into
> hardware - the 5 tuple hash, for example.
I'm probably missing the big picture. Are you building a router or a server?
A server has socket control blocks. Can the hash be precomputed and stored
there?
That doesn't help with UDP sendto, but I think it would work with TCP.
If you are building a router, does the routing as well as fq-ing have to fit
in the FPGA?
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Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <dave.taht@gmail.com>
2012-12-20 7:28 ` Dave Taht
2012-12-20 8:17 ` Hal Murray
2012-12-20 8:27 ` Jonathan Morton
2012-12-20 9:51 ` Hal Murray
2012-12-20 9:13 ` Dave Taht
2012-12-20 9:26 ` Dave Taht
2012-12-20 10:32 ` Hal Murray [this message]
2012-12-20 13:53 ` [Cerowrt-devel] " dpreed
2012-12-20 14:18 ` Dave Taht
2012-12-20 15:05 ` Dave Taht
2012-12-21 12:34 ` Dave Taht
2012-12-21 17:48 ` dpreed
2012-12-21 18:14 ` Jim Gettys
2012-12-21 18:25 ` dpreed
2012-12-21 18:45 ` Jim Gettys
2012-12-21 19:34 ` dpreed
2012-12-21 19:42 ` Jim Gettys
2012-12-21 21:54 ` [Codel] " David Woodhouse
2012-12-21 21:56 ` John Crispin
2012-12-21 22:08 ` David Woodhouse
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