From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-03-iad.dyndns.com (mxout-047-iad.mailhop.org [216.146.32.47]) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4BC62E00BA for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 11:46:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from scan-01-iad.mailhop.org (scan-01-iad.local [10.150.0.206]) by mail-03-iad.dyndns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B3E383569F for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 19:45:28 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Mail-Handler: MailHop by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 149.157.1.189 Received: from lotus.nuim.ie (lotus.nuim.ie [149.157.1.189]) by mail-03-iad.dyndns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75997834EF7 for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 19:45:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.test.com [127.0.0.1]) by lotus.nuim.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7073F7DC877; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 19:45:24 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by Copperfasten Mail Firewall at nuim.ie Received: from mango.nuim.ie (banyan.nuim.ie [149.157.1.4]) by lotus.nuim.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 482E87DC831; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 19:45:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tianji.laptop (horatio-155.cs.utexas.edu [128.83.158.155]) by mango.nuim.ie (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.03 (built Apr 24 2009; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0LHH00AAIYVM1300@mango.nuim.ie>; Thu, 03 Mar 2011 19:45:24 +0000 (GMT) Message-id: <4D6FEFD4.9010608@nuim.ie> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 13:45:24 -0600 From: Tianji Li User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100430 Fedora/3.0.4-2.fc11 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-version: 1.0 To: rick.jones2@hp.com Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: debloat-testing kernel git tree References: <20110225222210.GA3618@tuxdriver.com> <87fwr9jxya.fsf@cruithne.co.teklibre.org> <8739n9ii7z.fsf@cruithne.co.teklibre.org> <87tyfph2az.fsf@cruithne.co.teklibre.org> <1299176168.2157.14.camel@tardy> In-reply-to: <1299176168.2157.14.camel@tardy> Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: bloat-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, sedat.dilek@gmail.com X-BeenThere: bloat-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers working on AQM, device drivers, and networking stacks" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 19:46:20 -0000 On 03/03/2011 12:16 PM, Rick Jones wrote: >> For wireless routers and cable home gateways especially, this research >> shows that the total un-managed buffers in your system should be less >> than 32. > > Would it be a good thing to start describing these queues not so much in > terms of packets but in terms of delay (or bandwidth X delay)? > The unit of bandwidth is something like Mbps, that of delay can be second, so bandwidth X delay --> Mb, which is the unit of packet size. So both packets and delay should have the same effect for sizing buffers. Tianji > Constants tend to live longer than they should, no matter how noble in > birth. > > rick jones > > _______________________________________________ > Bloat-devel mailing list > Bloat-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat-devel >