From: Jim Gettys <jg@freedesktop.org>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: bloat-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: QoS for system critical packets on wireless
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 07:35:45 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E032511.7020508@freedesktop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTim5i0XhXZE8iZFWfr2utnghRmtxFg@mail.gmail.com>
On 06/22/2011 11:00 PM, Dave Taht wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Jim Gettys<jg@freedesktop.org> wrote:
>> On 06/22/2011 11:17 AM, Dave Taht wrote:
>>> The biggest fallout of the diffserv work I was trying was observing
>>> that most packets fell into one of 3 buckets:
>>>
>>> 1) System control and 'MICE' are< less than 1% of all packets. Mice
>>> includes a bunch of messages like ARP, NTP, UDP, and most of the icmp6
>>> portion of the stack, in what I'm doing currently. Mice are
>>> desperately needed for the network to continue to function.
>> I'd not use this term: please call it something else.
>>
>> Van and Kathy have talked about HTTP "mice" and "elephant" TCP flows for a
>> long time, and you'll terminally confuse everyone if you call these items
>> "mice".
> I totally agree that overloading 'mice' is the wrong thing to do. mice
> is a very useful category defined as 'short tcp streams', and well
> discussed that way in the existing TCP literature.
>
> I think I've settled on ANT, but lack a suitable backronym. Ants do
> useful stuff, taking care of cleaning up and organizing the universe.
> They are orderly, and hard to see,
> and can lift enormous things despite their size.
> Given my radio background I dislike it because it's short for antenna,
> but 'bee is confusing, and hard to spell, bird is the name of a
> routing daemon, and I'm plumb out of ideas lacking other analogies...
>
>
I like Bees, myself. They pollinate everything (a good analogy to what
DNS, DHCP, et. al. do).
- Jim
>> - Jim
>>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-06-23 11:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-06-22 15:17 Dave Taht
2011-06-22 22:12 ` [Babel-users] " Juliusz Chroboczek
2011-06-23 15:50 ` Dave Taht
2011-06-24 12:52 ` Juliusz Chroboczek
2011-06-24 14:07 ` Dave Taht
2011-06-23 2:48 ` Jim Gettys
2011-06-23 3:00 ` Dave Taht
2011-06-23 11:35 ` Jim Gettys [this message]
2011-06-23 12:32 ` Dave Taht
2011-06-23 17:23 ` Rick Jones
2011-06-23 18:38 ` Justin McCann
2011-06-26 13:51 ` Dave Taht
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