From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-32-ewr.dyndns.com (mxout-057-ewr.mailhop.org [216.146.33.57]) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76CF2E0053 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 07:57:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from scan-32-ewr.mailhop.org (scan-32-ewr.local [10.0.141.238]) by mail-32-ewr.dyndns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 491B46F6F96 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:56:54 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 () X-Mail-Handler: MailHop by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 75.145.127.229 Received: from gw.co.teklibre.org (75-145-127-229-Colorado.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [75.145.127.229]) by mail-32-ewr.dyndns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784136FA10B for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:56:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cruithne.co.teklibre.org (unknown [IPv6:2002:4b91:7fe5:1::20]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cruithne.co.teklibre.org", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (verified OK)) by gw.co.teklibre.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04DD05EA38 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 08:56:50 -0700 (MST) Received: by cruithne.co.teklibre.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 271DD121B7D; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 08:56:48 -0700 (MST) From: d@taht.net (Dave =?utf-8?Q?T=C3=A4ht?=) To: sedat.dilek@gmail.com Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: debloat-testing kernel git tree Organization: Teklibre - http://www.teklibre.com References: <20110225222210.GA3618@tuxdriver.com> <87fwr9jxya.fsf@cruithne.co.teklibre.org> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 08:56:48 -0700 In-Reply-To: (Sedat Dilek's message of "Sun, 27 Feb 2011 16:38:17 +0100") Message-ID: <8739n9ii7z.fsf@cruithne.co.teklibre.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, bloat-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org X-BeenThere: bloat-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers working on AQM, device drivers, and networking stacks" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:57:23 -0000 Sedat Dilek writes: > On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Dave T=C3=A4ht wrote: >> >> Sedat Dilek writes: >> >>> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 11:22 PM, John W. Linville >>> wrote: >>>> Announcement >>>> >>>> The bufferbloat project [1] is pleased to announce the availability >>>> of the debloat-testing Linux kernel git tree: >>>> >>>> =C2=A0 git://git.infradead.org/debloat-testing.git >> >> ----snip---- >> Excellent. At moment I would recommend building "low latency preempt >> desktop" kernels with a high HZ value (400 or 1000), enabling highres >> timers, and compiling in SFB as a module. (I'd like the default for SFB >> to be "m" rather than "n", too) >> > These "debloat guys" are fast :-). I was just preparing my > build-system (which I normally use to debianize linux-next kernels). > Any other recommendation for kernel-config options? For example: > linux-next has already CONFIG_NET_SCH_CHOKE (but I have unset it). Enable CHOKe. The HZ value change is due to my worry that we've smashed latency so much in the driver/mac layer that it's interacting with the higher layers somewhat badly... So we need to add more hooks to the servo loops involved in order to have a normal HZ.=20 > Which commits are in debloat-testing GIT but not in linux-next tree? The current list was in the release announcement. More on the way (mostly embedded drivers at this point) git pull early and often! > Are you planning debloat feature for 2.6.39? Depends on how many testers we get and what the results are.=20 I feel the eBDP stuff will not be ready during this release cycle. SFB and CHOKe are in net-next, so, probably. Various driver patches - particularly those that increase the available dynamic range via ethtool, (e.g lowering the bottommost TX queue limit to, like, 4, especially for home gateways) may make it out if people look harder into the issue. > > - Sedat - --=20 Dave Taht http://nex-6.taht.net