From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-02-iad.dyndns.com (mxout-043-iad.mailhop.org [216.146.32.43]) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA5832E0182 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 18:46:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from scan-01-iad.mailhop.org (scan-01-iad.local [10.150.0.206]) by mail-02-iad.dyndns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACFB2834C55 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 02:46:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 () X-Mail-Handler: MailHop by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 75.145.127.229 Received: from gw.co.teklibre.org (75-145-127-229-Colorado.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [75.145.127.229]) by mail-02-iad.dyndns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5076A834ADF for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 02:46:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cruithne.co.teklibre.org (unknown [IPv6:2002:4b91:7fe5:2:21c:25ff:fe80:46f9]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cruithne.co.teklibre.org", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (verified OK)) by gw.co.teklibre.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EAE1A5F02A for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 19:46:31 -0700 (MST) Received: by cruithne.co.teklibre.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 32A41122002; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 19:46:31 -0700 (MST) From: d@taht.net (Dave =?utf-8?Q?T=C3=A4ht?=) To: "John W. Linville" Subject: Re: [till.kamppeter@gmail.com: Google Summer of Code 2011 - Project ideas page for the Linux Foundation online] Organization: Teklibre - http://www.teklibre.com References: <20110218141736.GB2505@tuxdriver.com> <877hcxcrz3.fsf@cruithne.co.teklibre.org> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 19:46:31 -0700 In-Reply-To: <877hcxcrz3.fsf@cruithne.co.teklibre.org> ("Dave =?utf-8?Q?T?= =?utf-8?Q?=C3=A4ht=22's?= message of "Fri, 18 Feb 2011 07:55:28 -0700") Message-ID: <878vxc68s8.fsf@cruithne.co.teklibre.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: bloat-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-BeenThere: bloat-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers working on AQM, device drivers, and networking stacks" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 02:46:35 -0000 OK, I came up with one: 1) convince a web proxy like polipo or squid to use ECN marking on their upstream, when the downstream starts to falter. This is a lot simpler (in theory) than something like nRED as the two servo mechanisms can talk to each other. It's hard because at least in polipo's case, it wasn't designed to do that. -- Dave Taht http://nex-6.taht.net