From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wr1-x431.google.com (mail-wr1-x431.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::431]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 08B6F3CB36 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 01:27:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-wr1-x431.google.com with SMTP id 96so13627572wrb.2 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 22:27:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=C9q4oR5DJ+zSbkxRx4TaChon+5YKIXT8XGGDC49yaSY=; b=Ht536SFAyTh8nt5IlM9sGTldtIEB6Ayowton/TwJsHZINIB423NQxaqgTf4IO9hP3N qw0B6hEJYmiIh2fH7yCbnNO9UX91GE3hOKIGhUget7p83nzgFjYVcEEZ1OUfxZjyVxOg gk8E34dj2Iv5ew4aS0aNIgOTMx1WAWlKVU+TvworN+Lz0DSmGJMPrVJuw1J30eIF+jUW PGkjwI590YnEd8uBEDA2vlXcZUlwlh+VwMuOfRc8k+JA4mjLbqxTL7Ax1s7KYLwyVKyr 2GVH7i8TbvUVbMcAF9E3m9xYRAyBvxmvvONLQTPJsB3LblVG063uUtSd8tQiPeDqMtlD x5aw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=C9q4oR5DJ+zSbkxRx4TaChon+5YKIXT8XGGDC49yaSY=; b=K+cSqnjoiUrhDYS2rNEEDvJBSpZQ2uX6cC0qqhr4z1lJembsD+TYBmCe65RQuMG8ah wykZine0MShav8Y1uuXAEoOl17j6dIn9VmsKAkW8Ot/O+0EVnevMPOgNf352QXc6b5ck EUSt02/0lwWBetQjUoAhKnziw28sK0HbSGNIuQjSl8bd2iV0iGYBnxT0UP0PTaljKKEf Ex4N1xLwSLVzyXu+iw0HGEhk5Pn5ExPprBwmGJ3cOwwJA/3B2vibxZw8KMmFa9eA53bx DtOgHUFg8twZXif3q1cmS5r89Qx3RraZ8018ZUVrIGxT/9V4stXI5XOQTGoWkDFDCjM8 hwiQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukeU41Golp17aAzOaOExeTdShmz85ckGhkbPcpCEE14NT2w7QzIN FYXVScSOpJynGLXmNOdOUSo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN7yEi3yrz5H8P4cNEqwZf1GgJ9mcxmHwfdKeagYn2ftF4WGOSlVB8KQK6UsMh8ZuBpn4hWqBg== X-Received: by 2002:adf:8068:: with SMTP id 95mr15094239wrk.181.1547792877104; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 22:27:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from jonathartonsmbp.lan (83-245-233-163-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi. [83.245.233.163]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t12sm85704303wrr.65.2019.01.17.22.27.56 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 17 Jan 2019 22:27:56 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Subject: Re: contradictory WiFi flent results From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 08:27:55 +0200 Cc: bloat-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9D460DD5-67CF-4D38-AEBC-2284AD4BCFC3@gmail.com> References: To: Azin Neishaboori X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) X-BeenThere: bloat-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers working on AQM, device drivers, and networking stacks" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 06:27:58 -0000 > On 18 Jan, 2019, at 6:25 am, Azin Neishaboori = wrote: >=20 > My setup is pretty simple. I am on WiFi on my PC, and run flent on an = Ubuntu VM on a virtual machine, and connect to netperf.bufferbloat.net. =46rom a technical point of view, that really isn't a "simple" setup. = The very fact that you're running Linux in a VM means it probably = doesn't have direct control of the wifi hardware - rather, the host OS = does, and I very much doubt that Windows is very intelligent about it. = Then your path involves an awful lot of Internet infrastructure on the = way to the remote server and back. So your simple prioritised ack is the solution that works, because it's = the only solution that actually does anything in your setup. - Jonathan Morton