From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ee0-f43.google.com (mail-ee0-f43.google.com [74.125.83.43]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3DB7A21F188; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 02:54:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ee0-f43.google.com with SMTP id e49so1538eek.16 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 02:54:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FrrNLtHMlosf3yfC5m7uZ38pwY7LvOIWTxmUjMTMpZQ=; b=WyijkX5bkDMsNxC5wD0VVKP88hwhb3pB7udgHBqdp+ewE4KUTCjV/9ht+T4nVVmQv7 cnqTLsS22hee2iwj3GFG7aNFBXndmrm8g9Ek95rwFqR8gTKDt7KV99IXucHC7BZLmNP9 LcFBeybrBeDHHbzKJbq2FodGE67rataj+A780299g2KDfvxGP6FkJ6XNd2pDa7d8Bs7c Z4PSwZ9+efsN0nTijXz2QkqHLf0D84Rb4ecLia992X1EagmTn+jdFF1PaNaBAqkahcGU RJEKSs2Cc8EzO6KGAzMCYBxVOlgxp3YzQjUhjuByDG58zl2ZuoGY5Vt1PsakeQTMl/4Q 4Qbw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.199.134 with SMTP id x6mr45426477een.31.1352544843440; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 02:54:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.180.10 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 02:54:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 11:54:03 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Network tests as discussed in Washington, DC From: Dave Taht To: bloat , cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net, bloat-devel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: bloat-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers working on AQM, device drivers, and networking stacks" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 10:54:07 -0000 The RRUL test idea presented earlier this week would do best with many underlying servers, instrumented with TCP stats collection, and a large backend for analysis, and thus I got interested in the current state of affairs in the internet as to how to pull that together in conjunction with larger labs and universities. So, I started sorting through the debates at the FCC about network testing. A wide range of opinion is presented, AND represented - I randomly clicked on the names I recognised (like isc, verizon, karl auerbach, measurement labs, new horizon foundation, and many, many others. I'm pretty sure to get a balanced view I need to click on the names I don't recognise!) see position papers here: http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/proceeding/view.action?name=3D04-36 After reading a dozen, I sighed, and went back to coding. I'm just this guy, trying to fix bufferbloat, by all technical means necessary. Additionally we're working on fixing ipv6, home routers, home gateways, naming, etc - and I rarely pay attention to politics! If anyone can provide a summary here of the debate as it stands now and who the players are, it would be enlightening. In other news: I was very pleased to hear that Srikanth Sundaresan of the Bismark project ( http://projectbismark.net/ ) won the "Applied Networking Research Prize" at this past week's ietf ( http://irtf.org/anrp ), for: "Broadband Internet Performance: A View From the Gateway" http://conferences.sigcomm.org/sigcomm/2011/papers/sigcomm/p134.pdf An early version of cerowrt was used in some versions of bismark (they later went to openwrt stable). I continue to build their repos for possible use in cerowrt (or vice versa), and I'm contemplating extending their open sourced backend database schema to include data from the rrul tests.... https://github.com/dtaht/dashboard-db --=20 Dave T=E4ht Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt: http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscribe.= html