From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-yw0-f51.google.com (mail-yw0-f51.google.com [209.85.213.51]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A43AF2012F7; Mon, 2 Jul 2012 10:37:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yhnn12 with SMTP id n12so6129548yhn.10 for ; Mon, 02 Jul 2012 10:37:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=3uw4I4JFmpIpRu2m0ueCGWfGcXmUSpS0mRqCGCXdHFc=; b=0PzWX32dWH3KK/IqREViZ5Bka0oi6ryLGDDRwoD8o+1w0VwmobXAqYS2gYES5/GAZD CnJCQcXNmbfuTc4TBFa8ZZY46p7EBt3s9wjiUUVl56pd764BL0NE+9A/0fnxR/qR5Md9 eID8bPcOGMydVsV71Cy+gzorwX26sBOo3livGF+CdtGnrtwfcxgyNJi2No/PR1wxEmkg bwsymfETVRMgbwmNUc3zkwfw0sgleLM7rlwgBc2/i/dy7cUzIw7dEbg2aHqv/D5jw5V2 y374Uu0qU5B6fSvdD+r7a2m0SJhh+1Yj23/QH3B7MwhjOYAN+h5GLKlHhj1eSrOe8F/1 nnyQ== Received: by 10.68.232.232 with SMTP id tr8mr31404496pbc.73.1341250636296; Mon, 02 Jul 2012 10:37:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.66.100.212 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Jul 2012 10:36:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7ibojyozmk.fsf_-_@lanthane.pps.jussieu.fr> References: <2187151341044351@web9d.yandex.ru> <7isjdcpm1q.fsf@lanthane.pps.jussieu.fr> <40851341093226@web25d.yandex.ru> <7ik3yoz7p2.fsf@lanthane.pps.jussieu.fr> <1521341229978@web13h.yandex.ru> <7ibojyozmk.fsf_-_@lanthane.pps.jussieu.fr> From: Henning Rogge Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 19:36:56 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Babel-users] DLEP [was: switching cerowrt to quagga-babeld issues] To: Juliusz Chroboczek Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 02 Jul 2012 10:39:37 -0700 Cc: "L. Aaron Kaplan" , bloat-devel , babel-users , cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-BeenThere: bloat-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers working on AQM, device drivers, and networking stacks" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2012 17:37:17 -0000 On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: >> I would like to point you towards a nice feature that Henning is >> currently implementing: DLEP - a (mostly routing protocol independent) >> framework for communicating settings and metrics between a radio and >> a routing daemon. > > I reviewed an early draft of that. The current draft is not really in a good shape, still a lot of "proprietary" stuff and complexity that has the get out. > As I understand DLEP, it is a standardised way to implement the "thin > access point" model that Cisco and friends are promoting -- a complex > (and expensive) controller associated with a number of dumb APs. This > is a good way to enable mobility between APs with unmodified stations, > it's a good way to make network administrators happy (centralised > administration), and also a good way to make Cisco happy (since the > controller can be sold for much, much more than an AP). It also will allow us with an easy way to access link layer metrics, even from radios we can only reach over ethernet. > Standardising the protocol that the controller uses to communicate with > the APs is a worthy goal, but pretty much orthogonal to mesh networking > research. Yes, it is... it might become a good raw data source for the metric calculation of any kind of mesh routing protocol. Henning Rogge -- Steven Hawkings about cosmic inflation: "An increase of billions of billions of percent in a tiny fraction of a second. Of course, that was before the present government."