From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lb0-x234.google.com (mail-lb0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A95CB21F5D1; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 07:59:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-lb0-f180.google.com with SMTP id l4so6017117lbv.25 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 07:59:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=/V+cOle4ulXKrhILw8KKuRElkR5BPkSEOA9NtebqDOk=; b=Y6TYl7MpWuZgZiZiubOF0Y3sp6xetkVsjabX9AOe5q3cC9bcyDx8rfHSlmSPgcevnu nItA/M9BuTQRPqephW/JXWSv4DijU3v4yOqJrmEAGokMgf7RgnAzUYSsLufn00pI6Ukn tIMCUzKCJM7MUI/q36VaizL9NjY32w0VDRnVhC+so+IJfVG/JqF1TUGqvT4ps5Rifl13 hruw1F+IPOlSuScLniP/eoO/vB4C1mztHm6m6IAcjE/UfDk/UZmFlMNXaOzZe5mPnJRt Q/BPCYbzX/L1wsWhYMhtUK4ShZFU4wzAExmqOQkKSepgShO6G0QCqBym3GPUlzTK5MrF ZTwA== X-Received: by 10.152.228.164 with SMTP id sj4mr15646839lac.98.1418399989346; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 07:59:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from bass.home.chromatix.fi (87-95-139-188.bb.dnainternet.fi. [87.95.139.188]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id p10sm502306lap.10.2014.12.12.07.59.47 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 12 Dec 2014 07:59:48 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.1 \(1993\)) Subject: Re: cake: changing bandwidth on the rate limiter dynamically From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 17:59:45 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Dave Taht X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1993) Cc: bloat-devel , "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" X-BeenThere: bloat-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers working on AQM, device drivers, and networking stacks" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 16:00:21 -0000 > On 12 Dec, 2014, at 17:52, Dave Taht wrote: >=20 > Now, it turns out that cake makes altering the bandwidth really easy, > you can just change it from the command line. >=20 > http://pastebin.com/Jr9s6EBW >=20 > I am pretty sure changing it is currently pretty damaging to stuff in > flight (don't remember), but it needent be. I don=E2=80=99t think it is harmful. All that happens is that the = packet issue deadlines start to be advanced at a different rate with = each packet transmitted. A change in the rate by that mechanism = doesn=E2=80=99t cause any packet flushing or other trouble. The flow-discrimination mode and the diffserv mode can also be changed = in the same way, but this is more disruptive; it may at least result in = some packets arriving out of order within flows, if not also some = spurious drops. But the network can tolerate that happening = occasionally. - Jonathan Morton