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From: "Jerry Jongerius" <jerryj@duckware.com>
To: "'Jonathan Morton'" <chromatix99@gmail.com>
Cc: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Bloat] The Dark Problem with AQM in the Internet?
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 12:54:13 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <001001cfc3a9$ded8e740$9c8ab5c0$@duckware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJq5cE1eQXgFrb4dxSPYbQVzLT_Nd4NFvJtUFRcvrKvJL5b95g@mail.gmail.com>

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The additive increase is there in the raw data.

 

From: Jonathan Morton [mailto:chromatix99@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 12:31 PM
To: Jerry Jongerius
Cc: bloat
Subject: RE: [Bloat] The Dark Problem with AQM in the Internet?

 

> A ‘boost’ has never been seen.  Bandwidth graphs where there is no packet loss look like:

That's very odd, if true. Westwood+ should still be increasing the congestion window additively after recovering, so even if it got the bandwidth or latency estimates wrong, it should still recover full performance. Not necessarily very quickly, but it should still be visible on a timescale of several seconds.

More likely is that you're conflating cause and effect. The packet is only lost when the boost ends, so if for some reason the boost never ends, the packet is never lost.

- Jonathan Morton


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  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-29 16:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-23 18:16 Jerry Jongerius
2014-08-23 19:30 ` Jonathan Morton
2014-08-23 20:01 ` Sebastian Moeller
2014-08-25 17:13   ` Greg White
2014-08-25 18:09     ` Jim Gettys
2014-08-25 19:12       ` Sebastian Moeller
2014-08-25 21:17         ` Bill Ver Steeg (versteb)
2014-08-25 21:20           ` Bill Ver Steeg (versteb)
2014-08-28 13:19     ` Jerry Jongerius
2014-08-28 14:07       ` Jonathan Morton
2014-08-28 17:20         ` Jerry Jongerius
2014-08-28 17:41           ` Dave Taht
2014-08-28 18:15           ` Jonathan Morton
2014-08-29 14:21             ` Jerry Jongerius
2014-08-29 16:31               ` Jonathan Morton
2014-08-29 16:54                 ` Jerry Jongerius [this message]
2014-08-28 18:59           ` Sebastian Moeller
2014-08-29 11:33             ` Jerry Jongerius
2014-08-29 12:18               ` Sebastian Moeller
2014-08-29 14:42               ` Dave Taht
2014-08-29  1:59           ` David Lang
2014-08-29 14:37             ` Jerry Jongerius
2014-08-30  6:05               ` Jonathan Morton
2014-08-30  6:28                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2014-08-30  6:45                   ` Jonathan Morton
2014-09-01 17:30                     ` Jerry Jongerius
2014-09-01 17:40                       ` Dave Taht
2014-08-28 14:39       ` Rich Brown
2014-08-28 16:20         ` Jerry Jongerius
2014-08-28 16:35           ` Fred Baker (fred)
2014-08-28 18:00             ` Jan Ceuleers
2014-08-28 18:13               ` Dave Taht
2014-08-29  1:57                 ` David Lang
2014-08-28 18:41               ` Kenyon Ralph
2014-08-28 19:04                 ` Dave Taht
2014-08-28 16:36           ` Greg White
2014-08-28 16:52             ` Bill Ver Steeg (versteb)
2014-09-01 11:47           ` Richard Scheffenegger

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