From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8603A3B25E for ; Thu, 19 May 2016 04:41:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.17.3.79] ([134.76.241.253]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MarAM-1bJBgT1RrG-00KRei; Thu, 19 May 2016 10:41:43 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) From: moeller0 In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 10:41:40 +0200 Cc: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <011F8C60-0017-42F9-A5DD-0238274B938D@gmx.de> References: To: David Lang X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:V3pHsXwzw+EsjHfxo8QMkDWqxNAblm5jUp3JMd4xxNn235ZYIUk C6qsSypGVCOYQdw6pe0AGKKoipIqe/MEo/+hRMPoe2Rj9GcyYcu/wDGE6K2xHXv5LIoCIzU 73W9+sOunXA2QNfGsFEMf81f5rm64fSUyszuM6wMVObS6SlylML9PYV/cV+7JjyJGmeLJzO SW5wUEXG253oKqEzwUW9g== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:uBnBLATPiUk=:anmbr+uQveQdkrvUV1p0T7 9jOYMS1017yFqIxJWCyYeFvPNghsMz/2lw5ap6/SB00ouKnPAaFL7JzGp/ZulGm7WTTDE4r46 vjpAzar6dxkklvXE4I27R2hVbJ6zyhtI4MpEW1YRMEUMhVxFMfm/zJOH8Q1ht0Yu+/WG7iZlS ie86edksH0WgCgi5ksUql8aP8VZuC7GeU5qH1xtO9+Cdn+OiNc9KxC2cr0Q119hvzbfLDsjGR n4SadCKcjr5EbbmMDiOaba+mDG0BCfvnA+JruGIu18w2sFR9S2URbmSF2s4dJ/5epralm1eqJ RHYl9tf99pZT4U3B14hOVqVQU4B0NxKS/rxprbXaMLWY/WsTeSP5hUuFtJ7gnBlFiC72yWEmh USiBmMAN9mIrvIjkje9ld6siAi571p+1hjyv6bJGID0tPjiTg8EVms/y4TSqef7afhoTSxq3W 601mAdPmDPrS/aJQZW+gMwthxpuALX5qJcblJYf/+u4b4E4px3uXe4kYeeNBUyCJIUNeT5pXB QWtYj17Ml5BLF2nM0NIgP0oVgorFPt0qUYItxy9PawgTw+oy/yxFlOczz9ncSbjucuZmSVzXp jcrp/WxertlMy4iYIusYefzkVz/xF6L1tW8fMM/la+rcSSSqzwbtfs/EGH4dNatlN4giXPa6+ CK2xH+qKF1/lHQV5MjJpGr6JZXQR5hbl1vz2gEjd59iYhxUWNr2ZUuf+jljDgf4nrTxhMRXX3 bdcdUaRtSn7RNH+ivqObU94tG4Dqa2TUAKLP/e9U/p0AehuG37J0QHorpFxQ293NAnt+zV+wq PEEPPqE Subject: Re: [Bloat] anyone have info on the netflix speed test (fast.com)? X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 08:41:53 -0000 > On May 18, 2016, at 21:51 , David Lang wrote: >=20 > /. is talking about a new speed test to show your download speed. It = doesn=E2=80=99t > show upload speeds or ping time. =46rom fast.com: What is Fast.com measuring? Fast.com estimates your current download speed. You will generally be = able to get this speed from leading internet services, which use = globally distributed servers. Why does Fast.com only report on download speed? Download speed is most relevant for people who are consuming content on = the Internet, and we want fast.com to be very simple and fast. Why does Fast.com not report on ping, latency, jitter and other things? Fast.com is a simple-to-use way for consumers to estimate what speed = their ISP is providing. It is not a network engineer's analysis and = diagnostic suite. How is the number calculated? To calculate this estimate, Fast.com performs a series of downloads from = Netflix servers. Will Fast.com work everywhere in the world? Fast.com will work globally on any device (phone, laptop, or smart TV = with browser). Why is Netflix offering Fast.com? We want our members to have a simple, quick, commercial-free way to = estimate the speed their ISP is providing. What can I do if I'm not getting the speed I pay for? If results from fast.com and other speed tests often show less speed = than you have paid for, you can ask your ISP about the results. This looks like marketing PR somehow inflicted the release of an = internal demo. I agree with jb the one thing it has going for it is a = short name=E2=80=A6 It does only one thing but does that a) badly and b) = arguably it only even does 1/2 thing as ingress and egress are simply = not completely independent. Arguing that Ping (RTT) and jitter are = =E2=80=9Cnetwork engineer=E2=80=99s analysis and diagnostic=E2=80=9D = tools and hence out of scope for their simple tool shows that they are = aiming to low (I would go as far as claiming that with the explaining = text the aim is still on the =E2=80=9Cown foot=E2=80=9D territory, but I = digress).=20 Best Regards M. > David Lang > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat