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X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 20:28:41 -0000 --------------6CB4769524DE7F9F2B2F10E8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Johnathan, I remember you from before! On 2020-08-10 1:58 p.m., Jonathan Foulkes wrote: Because of the degree to which we're working from home and videoconferencin= g, a lot of low-price, medium-performance devices are suddenly too wimpy fo= r their new role. Big time. As noted above, it not just the CPE devices, it=E2=80=99s the con= gestion on the backhauls that causes issues, and it=E2=80=99s everything fr= om DSL (slammed DSLAMs are endemic) to cable systems with oversubscribed lo= cal loops and congested CMTS backhaul. Hell, even fiber to the home ISPs ma= nage to have variable capacity (and bloat) in the evenings. ... Stuff like this article from Jim Gettys on the needs of teachers. BTW- he c= alls out the IQrouter as his =E2=80=98Go to=E2=80=99 recommendation for non= -techies. He runs one himself and gave one to his non-techie brother. Buffe= rbloat in Action due to Covid-19 Thanks, I hadn't seen that CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE AND DISCLAIMER : This telecommunication, including a= ny and all attachments, contains confidential information intended only for= the person(s) to whom it is addressed. Any dissemination, distribution, co= pying or disclosure is strictly prohibited and is not a waiver of confident= iality. If you have received this telecommunication in error, please notify= the sender immediately by return electronic mail and delete the message fr= om your inbox and deleted items folders. 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Hi Johnathan, I remember you from before!

On 2020-08-10 1:58 p.m., Jonathan Foulkes wr= ote:

Because of the degree to which we're working from home and vi= deoconferencing, a lot of low-price, medium-performance devices are suddenl= y too wimpy for their new role.

Big time. As noted above, it not just the CPE devices, it=E2= =80=99s the congestion on the backhauls that causes issues, and it=E2=80=99= s everything from DSL (slammed DSLAMs are endemic) to cable systems with ov= ersubscribed local loops and congested CMTS backhaul. Hell, even fiber to the home ISPs manage to have variable capacity (and bl= oat) in the evenings.


...


Stuff like this article from Jim Gettys on the needs of tea= chers. BTW- he calls out the IQrouter as his =E2=80=98Go to=E2=80=99 recomm= endation for non-techies. He runs one himself and gave one to his non-techi= e brother. Bufferb= loat in Action due to Covid-19


Thanks, I hadn't seen that



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