From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lf1-x132.google.com (mail-lf1-x132.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::132]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C7B23CB36 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:28:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-lf1-x132.google.com with SMTP id 10so3134270lfr.8 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2019 15:28:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=QTdC03bcJ0W9QmGuPHJPQaIUsf3BKJpex16VbJaqidI=; b=uxP0wDG6TE+QzZlyxH3ao+/NnJwzJkaItfj63NG8J+a/8pWkTZu27PTrvkatwYzqZE eQOfW3AMHaXVaSOIQzWQ/iXFm9D21yEkovzmcqY1kW0zzQdB3zUfADJ3yBJFuR+fm0RI NPcuI4lP+xNCBBZ6ahgG6EVDSS1VGlFmrgMjgfjcJM4weMRtQogIg9oqbqoojOSe44G6 vZfM/P/Hmv1qwwMYLaQd9OBcJ7+CNKRMRTe2d9jyva8/PvWVQqbXRSSdNfwHhw/QuOFO MKOoiSLQqEs/T2VAsEiJC1TtaHO0DWQMr6sfPZ5q4sfRFsMc85xWCQtDKISngZPfNegv Hmlg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=QTdC03bcJ0W9QmGuPHJPQaIUsf3BKJpex16VbJaqidI=; b=tTwZ7am7TF7rpGIrtg/noq0e1Sji3Uf21kEBCkUR6vdW513Rxl80JPkBlFLfKILHJM oAmovSjb2Fc0a1ZDTkVO3FtgbXsPBMkN0u3UkK2Yasw3/IMq6pZ8T5iG0vxul++TCL0e k3QCiJ4lVHtB2DRXVzdvM8k1+9he10lOoo3xIiNLik1hJN3U5eFP/lrZ6g/tf0IlIZ5l Das7y+lyHpQ7MkmA3HisidPDBWKl5AMVhk2TbT7j6GgEKOLSneEsUvJbDmY45V9ejzMG 1sFGb6lqubVA3Y35G7OTzHKeojo8v0EcILpHpV/JF3w33ap+lWvZPK3ZZ53iIZOmo4Br +BCw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAV2sqE87my5ESt2Ow+26kPrvVPrRVTc4q5zjPStVwXUueCRoqhL ACDay5jiTovchKCtO0GB7Nc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwms6NRrsCBD0ZigZzoEGuk4dbdVWOduXPuUQiAjdZ1CUPfzjVxUAFIS1UPwaoZBh25DnOB9g== X-Received: by 2002:ac2:514a:: with SMTP id q10mr113183lfd.17.1553120919083; Wed, 20 Mar 2019 15:28:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jonathartonsmbp.lan (83-245-226-9-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi. [83.245.226.9]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k19sm286153lje.7.2019.03.20.15.28.38 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 20 Mar 2019 15:28:38 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 00:28:37 +0200 Cc: David Lang , bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <06867086-692C-464C-9AE3-38A401BABB29@gmail.com> References: To: davecb@spamcop.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Subject: Re: [Bloat] [Ecn-sane] My (controversial) position paper on TCP X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 22:28:40 -0000 I still have a functioning "UFO"-style Apple Airport Base Station from = about 2000. I no longer have a convenient means of reconfiguring it = (relies on a real Mac within a certain range of vintages), let alone = updating its firmware, if Apple bothered to do that any more. A lot of those died early due to a bad batch of capacitors that were = going around at the time. I repaired mine, and it hasn't gone wrong = since. Only trouble is, it only supports 802.11b and 10baseT half = duplex. And an analogue modem which, again, I can no longer command = conveniently. I also have a considerably better 2007 model. Both recently retired in favour of the IQrouter. - Jonathan Morton