From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Authentication-Results: mail.toke.dk; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com; arc=none (Message is not ARC signed); dmarc=pass (Used From Domain Record) header.from=gmail.com policy.dmarc=quarantine Received: from mail-qv1-xf2a.google.com (mail-qv1-xf2a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::f2a]) by mail.toke.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 01FF010F1914 for ; Fri, 15 May 2026 14:41:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail-qv1-xf2a.google.com with SMTP id 6a1803df08f44-8acb3daf2aaso120954236d6.0 for ; Fri, 15 May 2026 05:41:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20251104; t=1778848909; x=1779453709; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=to:date:message-id:subject:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=x+6TeLFgQbvzvhU3HGXQfaABShg5XRulVt2JAVthTbg=; b=JtRbSDh22BcnnK1ExpDCxtG6ry0jIXqpBPMnx/1IS24e12diNZkAK5ySOy/MvZoBSo A2ljSYRSaJNIdskkFBr9B0CPYBdXDbg1tONQCfJavi4kq9q+maHcX+bOICs9J40h/hU3 29aaYkLi80eXJMGFXKYhorXoj9OThQI8ot2pDN+f2Cszvxi60BVpEQCrdq4fT4/ngG9U Lh5N+EVBi8ullg115K3RYm9i2ppfWnoEwjUQ61aq+Bgz184B27OwNDxwE0wGQ1n7KUYK 6aqoGGVqEuuqStXqTm1cVbLq4+qfdtI1wmiO+uW5RMpcrTynCGSAOqUy3b9Xd8dhNih3 t9IQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20251104; t=1778848909; x=1779453709; h=to:date:message-id:subject:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :from:x-gm-gg:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=x+6TeLFgQbvzvhU3HGXQfaABShg5XRulVt2JAVthTbg=; b=Ok/4IEGArTApCjAEnAo0SwcYxhg6VS9Dq7fTJBHYeBrUBkUkhyIUv0KI/UC/2CGm0x 0xK4AWcbg6OSBUlQle76SQpH76GM4VVGZEORDB77+WQPczfQ5sFjANtyQf4d1AMXnm3f OV2lx95fmom/xIhT0XTmiNq1qNnv6+A1TkekQoEve6L0ao2+WRbfjfuIKqe48y/dAsau Z3yh4rUh5TahPgLR13YUPcaPBwztYMKl58ElOQ3C8uOdKZpv7zuG71XbfoAJBveBDLiJ v5eAny8pcqy0V/+jWRAiB5F31VBNOf3XC+gGEDCBDvGpSMmc42nko7Pt55J6Vur/5xNF xocA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Ywv/P22qglOS+5BdDVPYPxzLg20+kXpu5rGCF6uY9qDY0AC3MuC Jca9vaotyV2SlAsuJYMUoYYMYrWskA9eeVWDwww6x/BI/9jephp3sQQqrmAinV2x X-Gm-Gg: Acq92OEf8Xzrtc7gyUjqTSwhpRyD37IvEi6NhudNjmkOBy6eFIHyqaOeW7EvannVOmB 6IBDtBNhg0+kkhiqVC8iv6sBuonsUoSXagjPe1cCbbiIackQGEopeQsV+Z8D4tYvCNQD6gyibxw E8NV+yzkQtM+D6GBG3QlLaFFmaP/zFv+XdZ/VRvxlxUkN5knJoxMayIcTLb8o2RDR/yuWqyz6SJ FSVTPsw9NGMcAmD9xrk0SQ+aGVkUKEFAyXeysAzRORFcXKBUFtUyzUuPkG/HaP3yTm/2ydGI+n1 aAd5JTlFmmxGPBj8EN3ksWkHvHrxreEYB0Us4BSebeAKgrJFh3n2Hj7999ALnZqdsnZ6/p/4Bc/ GDG7plP6YOFTX0RtqniLLic2VeAH0yG9gxOZOne3PBVWdjudNs1yGf7yApejfZQKUGOFBDx2a74 9oW5carQh6+O47QcQU6myjXWUO8WujYQMDcNB9+zWgFRea35jgRCxbyaUW3qvuKtxoPxaahLssw 3k7rLX7y6zRXg== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6214:487:b0:89c:8a0f:55a0 with SMTP id 6a1803df08f44-8ca0f62fab9mr59030676d6.16.1778848908755; Fri, 15 May 2026 05:41:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpclient.apple (cg-23-147-188-130.lymeaccess.net. [23.147.188.130]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 6a1803df08f44-8c908d1bb46sm50989986d6.11.2026.05.15.05.41.47 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 15 May 2026 05:41:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich Brown Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3864.500.181\)) Message-Id: <0715B8CA-97D6-4032-BD3C-4A2A983811C6@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 2026 08:41:37 -0400 To: Rich Brown via Bloat X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3864.500.181) Message-ID-Hash: DMONIUM4TX7XTDCD44Z3EQ4TB2YFDYPP X-Message-ID-Hash: DMONIUM4TX7XTDCD44Z3EQ4TB2YFDYPP X-MailFrom: richb.hanover@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; loop; banned-address; emergency; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.10 Precedence: list Subject: [Bloat] fq_codel is 14 years old List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Folks,=20 Yesterday marked the fourteenth anniversary of Dave T=C3=A4ht=E2=80=99s = original announcement of a testable version of fq_codel in CeroWrt - 14 = May 2012. [1] And yet, I still see messages on the forums saying, =E2=80=9CMy speed = test is fine, but everything seems laggy...=E2=80=9D It=E2=80=99s = fascinating to see how long the tail is for vendor to understand this... Best, Rich [1] = https://lists.bufferbloat.net/cerowrt-devel/CAA93jw58x-EiTMV8nsBi0404Sx5Eb= wPE-+3wRvGT80vEU_QBkg@mail.gmail.com/