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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID c812f58fc94bb0fb3136a3859d31f337; Thu, 19 Dec 2024 16:31:09 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------VDq0uNVPWCL1g477LyuN3g0R" Message-ID: <0795300a-f3c4-4b7c-bd06-99d43de0a07b@rogers.com> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 11:31:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net References: <73o87647-p702-r61r-5389-47n7oqp940r5@ynat.uz> Content-Language: en-US From: David Collier-Brown In-Reply-To: <73o87647-p702-r61r-5389-47n7oqp940r5@ynat.uz> X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.23040 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Subject: Re: [Bloat] fcc request for standardized speed testing X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 16:31:10 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------VDq0uNVPWCL1g477LyuN3g0R Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 12/18/24 17:17, David Lang via Bloat wrote: > so, what happens when a standardized test is mandated and then it's > found that that test isn't as good as others? > > I'm leery of any government mandates. Governments in general are good a "policing" things*, such as deficiencies in specifications and persons trying to weasel around them. At the same time, good specifiers write in "or better" clauses so that subsequent standards can be a few lines added to the original work. We can tell that is broken in Canada when the CRTC does a request for comments ... but then rejects all the comments and proposed amendments. Oh, and resists publishing them (:-)) Have you seen that in the US? --dave [* See Jane Jacobs, /Systems of Survival: A Dialogue on the Moral Foundations of Commerce and Politics/, Random House, Inc., ISBN 0-394-55079-X, 1992]  or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systems_of_Survival > > David Lang > > On Wed, 18 Dec 2024, Dave Taht via Bloat wrote: > >> https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-407816A1.pdf > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat -- David Collier-Brown, | Always do right. This will gratify System Programmer and Author | some people and astonish the rest davecb@spamcop.net | -- Mark Twain --------------VDq0uNVPWCL1g477LyuN3g0R Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 12/18/24 17:17, David Lang via Bloat wrote:
so, what happens when a standardized test is mandated and then it's found that that test isn't as good as others?

I'm leery of any government mandates.

Governments in general are good a "policing" things*, such as deficiencies in specifications and persons trying to weasel around them.

At the same time, good specifiers write in "or better" clauses so that subsequent standards can be a few lines added to the original work.

We can tell that is broken in Canada when the CRTC does a request for comments ... but then rejects all the comments and proposed amendments. Oh, and resists publishing them (:-))

Have you seen that in the US?

--dave

[* See Jane Jacobs, Systems of Survival: A Dialogue on the Moral Foundations of Commerce and Politics, Random House, Inc., ISBN 0-394-55079-X, 1992]  or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systems_of_Survival

 



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On Wed, 18 Dec 2024, Dave Taht via Bloat wrote:

https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-407816A1.pdf
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