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On 20 Sep, 2014, at 12:03 pm, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 02:33:06AM +0300, Dave Taht wrote:
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gettys-iw10-considered-harmful-00
>=20
> The pedant in me wants to point out that 4 -> 10 is not =932.5 times =
worse=94,
> but =932.5 times as bad=94 or =931.5 times worse=94 (just as 4 -> 5 is =
=9320% worse=94,
> =930.2 times worse=94 or =931.2 times as bad=94).

ISTR seeing some concrete test data showing that IW10 doesn't even work =
as designed, unless TCP pacing of some type is used to spread out the =
burst.  That's *despite* bloated buffers.  Really puts the nail in the =
coffin, if you ask me.

The recent work on SQM could be added to the list of mitigation =
measures.  Also, by keeping inter-flow latency low, it greatly reduces =
the original motivation for IW10 in the first place.

 - Jonathan Morton=