From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from homiemail-a97.g.dreamhost.com (sub4.mail.dreamhost.com [69.163.253.135]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 931D13B260 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 12:52:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from homiemail-a97.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a97.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D756A003A21; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 09:52:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from kmnimac.local (unknown [50.136.231.153]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: nichols@pollere.net) by homiemail-a97.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 739E1A003A1F; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 09:52:04 -0800 (PST) To: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net References: <548F6875-8670-4784-8A4D-9D4E6F0F20BD@gmail.com> <65cde0ee-4cc8-22c8-5274-a4eafe9cf338@pollere.com> <229474f1-841f-60f9-0c7a-e613adac12fc@mti-systems.com> <20161128085856.23ddfd70@samsung9.wavecable.com> From: Kathleen Nichols Message-ID: <0bdf0f65-1101-fa99-ef33-4c23db9266a1@pollere.com> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 09:52:03 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20161128085856.23ddfd70@samsung9.wavecable.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Bloat] Fixing bufferbloat in 2017 X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 17:52:05 -0000 Well, it would be good to know where the congestion is coming from, i.e. saying that "the network is congested" doesn't say which network. Since our downlink got upgraded, there is rarely an issue there but from time to time the comcast network just "goes down" in that it seems that nothing gets out (the Nextdoor list then pops up all these postings "is anyone else having internet problems?") but this is infrequent. We've been able to find all sorts of interesting things in the home network including some substandard cabling (which has been replaced) and various wifi oddities (which would be easier to characterize if I could get better data on the clients, particularly wrt to Google wifi but I have an idea on this....) Guess if your house is on fire, you stop watching the cat videos, right? Kathie On 11/28/16 8:58 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote: > My experience has been that the media and developer attention span is > short lived, and maybe that is part of the problem. Gaming is a niche > market, and therefore is easily ignored; plus the classic gaming > market is dying and I am not sure anyone is really investing in it. > > The current hot topic use case seems to be machine learning and voice > interaction. I wonder if we could build a use case something related > to that? "Ok Google, my house is on fire!!" -- "Sorry can not call > fire department, network is congested". > > > _______________________________________________ Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat >