From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:3:216:3eff:fe7c:d1f3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 13FFD3B2A4 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 14:31:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CC3E1813D; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 14:34:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id p19C7RDqC9YM; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 14:34:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:2::247]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id C82ED1800D; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 14:34:35 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=sandelman.ca; s=mail; t=1637868875; bh=gEdapdJQbC49ckj89La1KFg3GhF2Yv59FwzmrgO3h00=; h=From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=RSf6CzsfhlJtP9VmK07Gl00SbwYRkkQPWWbZusp9Jd0YjAHrZaXR+jdoGrGyfJ5kT D63EqAeonDeE/lMlcxxmM/pa6x+sbcDIitq3sT0qjVpGVd4lNiIOPAB3T+vqBtY8eu G8qqb65ov2wUW90WrcoYkRVtk3kCf/JQyaXhZtDmpua1mxX2paizCIinbNUy8mWdQL 9oTlP0zNUCtPuLbbF2IaXa/epZBbWvXlAjRlsYD8O63EoShS8p0i9C0iXN0J13rp9R WoFxgc+xknHPiXVay1MbMgvhVx0y1h+ai2nEPcQTlD8E6X/a1yxw5x3VeFj1NyfZAy aN0FQK2rToyEA== Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8983DC65; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 14:31:39 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Richardson To: Kenneth Porter cc: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net In-Reply-To: <62b2ed73-e65e-d40d-d8c3-2b32f28adc8a@sewingwitch.com> References: <62b2ed73-e65e-d40d-d8c3-2b32f28adc8a@sewingwitch.com> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7+dev; GNU Emacs 26.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Subject: Re: [Bloat] ipv6 with telephone number mapping X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2021 19:31:45 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Kenneth Porter wrote: > On 11/25/2021 9:26 AM, Dave Taht wrote: >> What's the real barrier to doing this nowadays? We use signal in this >> way, sort of: >> >> https://twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/1463740452260171776 >> >> "There should be an automatic mapping from cellular numbers to IPV6 >> addresses so you can run a directly accessible server on any cell >> phone." > Without root, phones make really frustrating servers. Agreed. > Do/can phones have provider-independent addresses? Do we need root to assign > one? No, they mostly don't. But, running an overlay like LISP makes sense. QUIC can then be used to remove the latency from the overlay. (Or SHIM6 is that could be rebooted) --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEbsyLEzg/qUTA43uogItw+93Q3WUFAmGf5JsACgkQgItw+93Q 3WX9yQf9GImWXL7Q1RxhsrfltGtarYwnNOC/p2b3tNLaLaBrYFHZZKzvP8BwbJyO p+skvYRcCh41IW2ZQtCn4kKQRDTGQkgtx0PDVTlAJZ1OjqWGq0vEll5zG8EcUInx H1EmESjVALy2FHsldrvbRx8AHhIKE7sBBQbqJZRyc3clYSysKGIbDedSEUhRUdXa 3JisnY0rg34KveVHavMpYGCSs3pKku2J/D1WcbpjrgKkWY/BV5HAQr60PmXitCX2 PiUE/+mpThefPlytBOsXUk6/Z1ABGLv2PhBcnwTY+rSyl6dMN0c11SoLpQ9owI3Y r1AJQkXvRK3/4lcXMs1u40iHz5zTPg== =1/pd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--