From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from g1t0027.austin.hp.com (g1t0027.austin.hp.com [15.216.28.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp1.hp.com", Issuer "VeriSign Class 3 Secure Server CA - G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 18092201A78 for ; Tue, 31 May 2011 12:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from g1t0038.austin.hp.com (g1t0038.austin.hp.com [16.236.32.44]) by g1t0027.austin.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D07386CA; Tue, 31 May 2011 19:17:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [16.89.244.213] (tardy.cup.hp.com [16.89.244.213]) by g1t0038.austin.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE43F30060; Tue, 31 May 2011 19:17:15 +0000 (UTC) From: Rick Jones To: Bill Sommerfeld In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 12:17:15 -0700 Message-ID: <1306869435.8149.2052.camel@tardy> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] philosophical question X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: rick.jones2@hp.com List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 19:00:28 -0000 On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 11:07 -0700, Bill Sommerfeld wrote: > On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 21:24, George B. wrote: > > But assuming my network, as a server of content is not over > > subscribed, what would you suggest as the best qdisc for such a > > traffic profile? In other words, I am looking at this from the server > > aspect rather than from the client aspect. > > Philosophical rhetorical question: If the bottlenecks are all outside > your network, where do you expect a queue to build up? Where are you > storing packets that can't be sent right away? > > I'd think the TCP congestion control algorithms would be the thing to > worry about, rather than qdiscs... Definitely. One of these days I really should write the "Farragut" congestion control module - "Damn the losses, full speed ahead" :) rick jones