From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lanfw001a.cxnet.dk (lanfw001a.cxnet.dk [87.72.215.196]) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75E8320033B for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:58:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [87.72.44.50] (lanvpn001a.cxnet.dk [87.72.215.222]) by lanfw001a.cxnet.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id F17CA163597; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 19:19:17 +0200 (CEST) From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer To: Thomas Graf In-Reply-To: <20110608230622.GE17867@canuck.infradead.org> References: <1307537773.3057.17.camel@edumazet-laptop> <1307545032.3057.45.camel@edumazet-laptop> <1307546871.20906.223.camel@probook> <20110608230622.GE17867@canuck.infradead.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Organization: ComX Networks A/S Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 13:18:31 -0400 Message-ID: <1307639911.20906.396.camel@probook> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Thomas Graf , bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] Notes about hacking on AQMs X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: jdb@comx.dk List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 16:58:18 -0000 On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 19:06 -0400, Thomas Graf wrote: > On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 11:27:51AM -0400, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 16:57 +0200, Eric Dumazet wrote: > > > > > Just add to your HTB some RED qdisc ? You have a framework to build > > > whatever is needed. Dont try to use a "single magic thing that will > > > solve all my problems". This reminds me the ESFQ attempt : Patrick > > > prefered to plug an external classifier in SFQ, instead of adding > > > specialized code in each possible Qdisc. > > > > While this is a good coding approach, the end result is that nobody is > > using this stuff, because "tc" is so difficult to use, and its error > > feedback is so lousy that you will never figure out your small syntax > > errors. > > > > I wonder if Thomas Graf ever finished/release his alternative to tc? > > Wish I could spend more time on it but I'm slowly getting there. > I'll present some of it at netconf. > > Takes quite some effort to really handle all misconfiguration > cases and print verbose error messages to help and assist the > user. Good to hear that you still work on the project :-) Thomas Graf's old slides are available here: http://vger.kernel.org/netconf2010_slides/tgraf_netconf10.odp