From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:3:216:3eff:fe7c:d1f3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 203C03B2A4 for ; Wed, 12 May 2021 12:02:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9D9839059; Wed, 12 May 2021 12:11:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Q-AKmqgKfLdl; Wed, 12 May 2021 12:11:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (unknown [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:2:56b2:3ff:fe0b:d84]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B75D39057; Wed, 12 May 2021 12:11:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6102899; Wed, 12 May 2021 12:02:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Richardson To: "Livingood, Jason" , Greg White , Jonathan Foulkes , bloat In-Reply-To: <666B8455-7B26-4E89-A7F2-0279B4D67FCB@cable.comcast.com> References: <666B8455-7B26-4E89-A7F2-0279B4D67FCB@cable.comcast.com> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7+dev; GNU Emacs 26.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 12 May 2021 12:02:37 -0400 Message-ID: <13254.1620835357@localhost> Subject: Re: [Bloat] [EXTERNAL] Re: Terminology for Laypeople X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 May 2021 16:02:39 -0000 The part I'd like to simplify is "latency".... Most people can understand that the hot water tap doesn't produce hot wate= r instantly, but I don't know how leverage that experience to networking dir= ectly. Idle and Working are good. -- ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh networ= ks [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | IoT architect= [ ] mcr@sandelman.ca http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails = [