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From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] finally... winning on wired!
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 06:22:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1325481751.2526.23.camel@edumazet-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw7xHNZeT-nvk63fKEwfTSO+9e_8JfOqcmjyALkcK_gPnA@mail.gmail.com>

Le lundi 02 janvier 2012 à 01:40 +0100, Dave Taht a écrit :

> SFQ has generally been quite good in many respects. SFQ also does
> improved hashing on net-next. But: QFQ seemed very promising also, and
> it took until now to see it clearly, with BQL turned on.
> 
> To look in more detail at sfq vs qfq, under even heavier load:
> 
> http://www.teklibre.com/~d/bloat/pfifo_sfq_vs_qfq_linear50.png
> 
> It's really very rare in my life that I've seen a win vs an existing
> system of these orders of magnitude. It's taken me a week to make sure
> the results were real, and repeatable... I thought about sitting on
> them for a while longer actually. I'd really like someone else to
> repeat these tests and tell me I'm not seeing things!
> 
> I have hopes QFQ will do even better at 10Mbit vs SFQ.

Happy New Year Dave

This makes no sense to me.

For most uses on a host or residential router, SFQ should perform the
same than QFQ.

QFQ is the thing you want to use on a big node, when SFQ limits are
reached (SFQ as implemented in linux : at most 127 concurrent flows, and
at most 127 packets in queue. This could be changed with an increase of
memory cost [ which are really small anyway : about 4 Kbytes per SFQ
queue ]. A "nolimit" implementation could use a dynamic memory allocator
schem, eventually consuming less memory on typical use :)

Please try the patch I posted this morning to solve this SFQ bug.

http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/133793/




  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-02  5:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-02  0:40 Dave Taht
2012-01-02  5:22 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2012-01-02  8:07   ` Dave Taht
2012-01-02 21:31     ` Dave Taht
2012-01-02 22:14       ` Albert Rafetseder
2012-01-02 22:33         ` Dave Taht
2012-01-04 15:25       ` [Bloat] What is fairness, anyway? was: " Jim Gettys
2012-01-04 16:16         ` Dave Taht
2012-01-04 17:23           ` Jim Gettys
2012-01-04 17:36           ` Justin McCann
2012-01-04 17:40             ` Eric Dumazet
     [not found]             ` <CAFkTFa89mOmbcOV1PWX3my04rK4NsEvyakcQV2j54qa0gzAViQ@mail.g mail.com>
2012-01-05 17:52               ` Bob Briscoe
2012-01-06 17:42                 ` Jim Gettys
2012-01-06 18:09                   ` Dave Taht
2012-01-06 19:57                   ` Eric Dumazet
2012-01-06 20:34                 ` Jonathan Morton
2012-01-07 19:42                   ` Bob Briscoe
2012-01-07 22:16                     ` Wesley Eddy
2012-01-08  0:40                 ` Dave Taht
     [not found]                   ` <CAA93jw7xKwdUeT7wFNoiM8RQp1--==Eazdo0ucc44vz+L1U06g@mail.g mail.com>
2012-01-09  5:38                     ` Bob Briscoe
2012-01-11  7:26                       ` Dave Taht
     [not found]                         ` <CAA93jw4KJdYwrAuk7-yHDYCGBh1s6mE47eAYu2_LRfY45-qZ2g@mail.g mail.com>
2012-01-14 11:06                           ` Bob Briscoe
2012-01-13 21:45                   ` Dan Siemon
2012-01-14 15:55                     ` Dave Taht
2012-01-04 16:22         ` Eric Dumazet
2012-02-05  0:24         ` George B.
2012-02-05  0:43           ` Jonathan Morton
2012-02-05  1:57             ` George B.
2012-02-05  2:05               ` john thompson
2012-02-05  7:39             ` Eric Dumazet
     [not found]               ` <CAA93jw68yntHkhETQ1a9-Azu7UXEuU9f5fgOsB25hvA240iApg@mail.gmail.com>
2012-02-05 14:24                 ` Dave Taht
2012-02-05 17:53               ` Justin McCann
2012-02-05 18:21                 ` Eric Dumazet

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