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From: dpreed@reed.com
To: "Michael Richardson" <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
Cc: bloat-devel <bloat-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net,
	bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] Network tests as discussed in Washington, DC
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:11:12 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1352772672.88731675@apps.rackspace.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <12051.1352678335@obiwan.sandelman.ca>

I personally am happy that Henning Schulzrinne is pushing for this.  However, it should be remembered that the Commissioners rule the day at the FCC.  I hope he doesn't suffer what the Spectrum Policy Task Force at the FCC suffered when I was one of the many people who was involved.  Let's just say a lot of staffers at the FCC were forced to leave because they dared to focus on technology "third rails".

-----Original Message-----
From: "Michael Richardson" <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 6:58pm
To: "Dave Taht" <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: "bloat-devel" <bloat-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net>, cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net, "bloat" <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Network tests as discussed in Washington, DC

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Re: FCC.
The IETF IAB plenary last Wednesday had a presenter from the FCC,
who claimed to care about latency in response to my question.

I don't claim it's a good use of your time to listen to these, but
probably having the links in the archive is useful.

http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/85/slides/slides-85-iesg-opsandtech-6
http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/85/slides/slides-85-iesg-opsandtech-7
http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/85/slides/slides-85-iesg-opsandtech-8

http://ietf85.conf.meetecho.com/index.php/Recorded_Sessions
http://recordings.conf.meetecho.com/Recordings/watch.jsp?recording=IETF85_PLENARY&chapter=part_11

5. Technical Topic: Measurement Issues in the Internet

   Moderator:  Alissa Cooper
   Speakers:  Sam Crawford and Henning Schulzrinne

   Although network performance measurement has been a topic of research,
   standardization, and development for decades, recent efforts to create
   national, regional, and global access network measurement testbeds and
   frameworks are drawing renewed interest.  These efforts seek to provide
   consistent measurements of fine-grained performance metrics such as
   packet loss, delay, and throughput, as well as higher order tests to
   capture quality of experience with respect to specific applications and
   services.  Some standardized metrics and tests exist, including those
   developed in the IPPM WG, but a unified framework for observing and
   reporting the quality metrics that define users experiences across
   different networks has yet to be developed.  This plenary will examine
   the implications of large-scale network performance measurement for the
   Internet by exploring the approaches, results, and challenges involved
   with measurement efforts from around the world.
-- 
Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works 





  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-11-13  2:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-10 10:54 [Bloat] " Dave Taht
2012-11-10 14:18 ` [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] " dpreed
2012-11-11  8:35 ` [Bloat] " Daniel Berger
2012-11-11 13:39   ` [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] " Dave Taht
     [not found] ` <12051.1352678335@obiwan.sandelman.ca>
2012-11-13  2:11   ` dpreed [this message]
2012-12-08  6:53     ` [Bloat] Dave's "Water Videos" posted to YouTube Richard Brown

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