From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp180.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp180.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.180]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9127821F154 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 18:08:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp58.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1259A308977; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 21:08:43 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: from legacy23.wa-web.iad1a (legacy23.wa-web.iad1a.rsapps.net [192.168.4.109]) by smtp58.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E31CF308973; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 21:08:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from reed.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by legacy23.wa-web.iad1a (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3D7B10A0001; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 21:08:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by apps.rackspace.com (Authenticated sender: dpreed@reed.com, from: dpreed@reed.com) with HTTP; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 21:08:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 21:08:42 -0500 (EST) From: dpreed@reed.com To: "Dave Taht" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_20121119210842000000_81678" Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Type: html In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1353377322.866227605@apps.rackspace.com> X-Mailer: webmail7.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:49:19 -0800 Cc: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net, bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] meraki gets bought for 1.2b today X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 02:08:44 -0000 ------=_20121119210842000000_81678 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0ADoing good is not a good way to get rich, sadly. Mostly, I don't think = they focus on mesh routing anymore - they sell "enterprise systems".=0A =0A= -----Original Message-----=0AFrom: "Dave Taht" =0ASent= : Monday, November 19, 2012 4:48pm=0ATo: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.ne= t, "bloat" =0ASubject: [Cerowrt-devel] meraki = gets bought for 1.2b today=0A=0A=0A=0Ahttp://www.meraki.com/=0A=0Ayears ago= I thought the srcRR routing protocol was quite innovative=0A(batman seems = very similar) at layer 2...=0A=0Ahttp://pdos.csail.mit.edu/rtm/srcrr-draft.= pdf=0A=0AThen they went commercial and kind of dark.=0A=0AAnd they got boug= ht today by cisco for 1.2B.=0A=0Ahttp://www.zdnet.com/cisco-acquires-meraki= -for-1-2-billion-to-move-in-on-mid-market-cloud-customers-7000007612/=0A=0A= Sometimes, in trying to fix home routers, I think we aimed too low.=0A=0ATh= ere is not a lot available on their current mesh routing=0Aimplementation, = this is old: http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/roofnet/design/=0A=0AAnd it does app= ear their stuff is almost entirely openwrt based.=0A=0Ahttp://dl.meraki.net= /linux/=0A=0ATheir most recent kernel in their tarball, is 2.6.32.59 - whic= h is=0Apretty current of the backports of the oldest stable kernel, which= =0Amakes me reasonably happy vs a vs CVEs. But I assume their ipv6=0Asuppor= t is lousy, and they have bufferbloat issues.Anybody got any of=0Athis gear= ?=0A=0ATheir dnsmasq is relatively current (2.63), as seems to be many of= =0Atheir utilities that I checked. While their binary firmware is locked=0A= down, they seem to do frequent updates, which also makes me happy.=0A(and s= taying current probably contributed to their market rise, IMHO)=0A=0AThey s= ure have a nice set of guis.=0A=0AAnd meanwhile, the core bufferbloat, open= wrt and cerowrt development=0Ateams labor on, on no funding, fixing the nex= t generation of=0Aproblems...=0A=0ASome days, it's not worth getting up in = the morning.=0A=0A=0A=0A-- =0ADave T=C3=A4ht=0A=0AFixing bufferbloat with c= erowrt: http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscribe.html=0A__________________= _____________________________=0ACerowrt-devel mailing list=0ACerowrt-devel@= lists.bufferbloat.net=0Ahttps://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-deve= l ------=_20121119210842000000_81678 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= Doing good is not a good way to get rich, sadly.  Mostly, I don't thin= k they focus on mesh routing anymore - they sell "enterprise systems".

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-----Original Message-----
From: "Dave Taht" <dave.taht@gmai= l.com>
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 4:48pm
To: cerowrt-deve= l@lists.bufferbloat.net, "bloat" <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
S= ubject: [Cerowrt-devel] meraki gets bought for 1.2b today

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htt= p://www.meraki.com/

years ago I thought the srcRR routing protoc= ol was quite innovative
(batman seems very similar) at layer 2...

http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/rtm/srcrr-draft.pdf

Then they w= ent commercial and kind of dark.

And they got bought today by ci= sco for 1.2B.

http://www.zdnet.com/cisco-acquires-meraki-for-1-2= -billion-to-move-in-on-mid-market-cloud-customers-7000007612/

So= metimes, in trying to fix home routers, I think we aimed too low.

There is not a lot available on their current mesh routing
implement= ation, this is old: http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/roofnet/design/

An= d it does appear their stuff is almost entirely openwrt based.

h= ttp://dl.meraki.net/linux/

Their most recent kernel in their tar= ball, is 2.6.32.59 - which is
pretty current of the backports of the o= ldest stable kernel, which
makes me reasonably happy vs a vs CVEs. But= I assume their ipv6
support is lousy, and they have bufferbloat issue= s.Anybody got any of
this gear?

Their dnsmasq is relatively= current (2.63), as seems to be many of
their utilities that I checked= . While their binary firmware is locked
down, they seem to do frequent= updates, which also makes me happy.
(and staying current probably con= tributed to their market rise, IMHO)

They sure have a nice set o= f guis.

And meanwhile, the core bufferbloat, openwrt and cerowrt= development
teams labor on, on no funding, fixing the next generation= of
problems...

Some days, it's not worth getting up in the= morning.



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Dave T=C3=A4ht

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