From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pa0-f53.google.com (mail-pa0-f53.google.com [209.85.220.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0AA00200203 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 10:48:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-pa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id bg4so2610818pad.12 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 10:48:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:date:in-reply-to :references:content-type:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version; bh=9JLWP077I2gFAOzKMyNi6Ucpke7b9dFPO6M+PD5AF9M=; b=IVfUo1sSc0Su1i3LtwbYg8EnEQGLk03VgDAWjc3CASqtogkdF4luMvEJkWDXFuH/Z2 yJpnavArps8GvFRjnxLlg0Be3ZuUhIRPPotalBJCgaAVCkil3DBGlf13d5ARn8mRdACn bh681I5oQqsRA1ucFV0K5f60iwTBH27n/hoWCCvcyUD2Sd27sk+zry865XIRfZCLnXyS SzBmIyVFNydYx1jqy4Vnt0+ZVlhLyTvF8Sp59PWPEYIgkOd5RyI8dqo6D6aYe9Eoyvco DU5H1UWkiiJC+0E3Spa/wKyPC7cpyRIW/sJdJ64yUgCunbyaaR0cVSmWUU+xDMJ+29eN iSVw== X-Received: by 10.68.41.197 with SMTP id h5mr25102507pbl.88.1361904522707; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 10:48:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.19.252.153] ([172.19.252.153]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f9sm2310467paz.12.2013.02.26.10.48.34 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 26 Feb 2013 10:48:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1361904513.11403.9.camel@edumazet-glaptop> From: Eric Dumazet To: Jonathan Morton Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 10:48:33 -0800 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.2.3-0ubuntu6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] Testing fq_codel on Android Galaxy Nexus AK kernel X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 18:48:43 -0000 On Tue, 2013-02-26 at 20:27 +0200, Jonathan Morton wrote: > Since the phone only has control of the bottleneck in the upload > direction, a browse + upload or ping + upload or VoIP + upload test > would be appropriate. It's important to control the link speed as much > as possible to be the same for equivalent tests, and to try several > different network conditions. > > Tests involving heavy downlink traffic would measure bloat at the cell > tower, or at the ISP or access point for wifi tests. I have serious doubts this will show something. I guess the queue of not yet sent packets will be _after_ qdisc layer, in the network device itself.