From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pb0-f51.google.com (mail-pb0-f51.google.com [209.85.160.51]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D11EA21F118 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 12:32:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pb0-f51.google.com with SMTP id un15so5850845pbc.10 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 12:32:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:date:in-reply-to :references:content-type:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version; bh=aPaFOEK+dAqSVElY+LNoMpyEEt5Ha4/Wvua7UbK0I64=; b=psNh+sqzD+R2J9Uxvictan69/IqWRpdgP7YGs4peNWkYHcN1gQyuIoVpnE202OSqW6 AWlIcoxlnqA+b4tI4LHRb2LoDOX36y3i+5luThkYq5d4y67RNumQOl622ys4SXRw8VIl VFCisOsNNt239yci2G6NFWnNE8aVUOWi3hJ7ud4lpzsTuU2kzT152ojoAbwW3HiJtvc5 2uWHJptHCeRhnqSD/Ep/v1otWPlyGsWrf3kn0Qu1hBRAa1iPeh+of8Fqm2RI+S6qvFPx RzNsGivqOlrQ6hQpsJr4IzhyLmbcfjwyQ7xuktO+p9ixqdaW0sh6HdOZZv2ZoD50DOK4 gtIw== X-Received: by 10.68.75.72 with SMTP id a8mr28970476pbw.143.1363548763334; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 12:32:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.19.242.99] ([172.19.242.99]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id kl4sm17490158pbc.31.2013.03.17.12.32.41 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 17 Mar 2013 12:32:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1363548760.29475.87.camel@edumazet-glaptop> From: Eric Dumazet To: Stephen Hemminger Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 12:32:40 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20130317122449.3dce3692@nehalam.linuxnetplumber.net> References: <20130317122449.3dce3692@nehalam.linuxnetplumber.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.2.3-0ubuntu6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: Eric Dumazet , tsv-area@ietf.org, bloat , aqm@ietf.org, Mikael Abrahamsson Subject: Re: [Bloat] Flow queuing performance (was: Re: [tsvwg] New Version Notification for draft-baker-tsvwg-aqm-recommendation-00.txt) X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 19:32:44 -0000 On Sun, 2013-03-17 at 12:24 -0700, Stephen Hemminger wrote: > On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 15:12:16 -0400 > Jim Gettys wrote: > > > As a result, at the last Linux Plumber's Conference in August, there was > > general consensus that we could replace PFIFO_FAST as the default qdisc in > > Linux, awaiting just our confidence that fq_codel (or something very > > similar) was mature enough for such a step. > > The only thing holding this back is that some user's still want to have priority queueing > of control packets. I (and others) have done some experiments on layering a traditional > three class priority layer on top of fq_codel, but nothing concrete has been submitted > for review. I did a patch on top of fq_codel to add 3 bands (same prio classification than pfifo_fast). I added a new attribute at that time to enable this 3 bands (and disabling the external classifier, as it uses same skb->priority field.) I probably better clone fq_codel, because if we want a pfifo_fast replacement, it should run without the help of a "tc" command.