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From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>
Cc: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>,
	"Mike Frysinger" <vapier@gentoo.org>,
	"Jiri Benc" <jbenc@redhat.com>, "Jiri Pirko" <jpirko@redhat.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, "Patrick McHardy" <kaber@trash.net>,
	"Steven Barth" <cyrus@openwrt.org>,
	bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net, "David Miller" <davem@redhat.com>,
	"Jussi Kivilinna" <jussi.kivilinna@mbnet.fi>,
	"Felix Fietkau" <nbd@nbd.name>, "Michal Soltys" <soltys@ziu.info>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] tc linklayer ADSL calc broken after commit 56b765b79 (htb: improved accuracy at high rates)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 08:52:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1369842724.5109.44.camel@edumazet-glaptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130529151330.22c5c89e@redhat.com>

On Wed, 2013-05-29 at 15:13 +0200, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> I recently discovered that the (traffic control) tc linklayer
> calculations for ATM/ADSL have been broken by:
>  commit 56b765b79 (htb: improved accuracy at high rates).
> 
> Thus, people shaping on ADSL links, using e.g.:
>  tc class add ... htb rate X ceil Y linklayer atm overhead 10
> 
> Will no-longer get ATM cell tax/overhead adjusted.
> 
> How can we solve/fix this?
> Perhaps we can change to use the "stab" system instead (as it does
> not seem to be broken by the commit).
> 
> But how do we facilitate a change to use "stab" system (for all the
> scripts using the old option)?
> 
> Can we change the iproute2/tc command to handle this transparently, or
> should we give an error/warning if someone uses "tc" and "linklayer" on
> a kernel above v.3.8. ?
> 
> 
> History:
>  - My linklayer ATM changes appeared in kernel 2.6.24 (and iproute2 2.6.25)
>  - The STAB changes appeared in kernel 2.6.27
> 

Hi Jesper

stab suffers from the same problem : its table driven, so works only for
packet smaller than a given size.

I am not sure it will solve the ATM logic (with the 5 bytes overhead per
48 bytes cell)

btw, even on old kernels :



  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-29 15:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-29 13:13 Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2013-05-29 15:52 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2013-05-29 22:50   ` Stephen Hemminger
2013-05-29 23:18     ` Eric Dumazet
2013-05-30  9:15       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2013-05-30  9:52         ` Steinar H. Gunderson
2013-05-30  0:34     ` Dave Taht
2013-05-30  8:09     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2013-05-30  7:51   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2013-05-30 14:39     ` Eric Dumazet
2013-05-30 15:55       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2013-06-02 21:15 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-06-04 12:13 ` [Bloat] Bad shaping at low rates, " Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2013-06-04 15:18   ` Eric Dumazet
2013-06-04 15:55     ` Eric Dumazet
2013-06-04 16:02       ` Eric Dumazet
2013-06-04 17:11         ` [Bloat] [PATCH] net_sched: htb: do not mix 1ns and 64ns time units Eric Dumazet
2013-06-04 20:21           ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2013-06-04 20:26             ` Dave Taht
2013-06-04 21:02               ` Eric Dumazet
2013-06-04 20:50             ` Eric Dumazet
2013-06-05  0:44           ` David Miller
2013-06-06 13:55 ` [Bloat] RFC: Proposed fix for tc linklayer calc broken after commit 56b765b79 (htb: improved accuracy at high rates) Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2013-06-06 14:28   ` Eric Dumazet
2013-05-30  4:20 [Bloat] tc linklayer ADSL " Hagen Paul Pfeifer

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