From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Jaume Barcelo <jaume.barcelo@upf.edu>
Cc: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Bloat] sweet tcp
Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 12:10:48 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1373397048.4979.187.camel@edumazet-glaptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJpd8ptg46TmHk=cFECAqspXctW_OwnBc8ORf7Sbo1cUoThScg@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, 2013-07-09 at 19:38 +0200, Jaume Barcelo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I was explaining the bufferbloat problem to some undergrad students
> showing them the "Bufferbloat: Dark Buffers in the Internet" paper. I
> asked them to find a solution for the problem and someone pointed at
> Fig. 1 and said "That's easy. All you have to do is to operate in the
> sweet point where the throughput is maximum and the delay is minimum".
>
> It seemed to me that it was a good idea and I tried to think a way to
> force TCP to operate close to the optimal point. The goal is to
> increase the congestion window until it is larger than the optimal
> one. At that point, start decreasing the congestion window until is
> lower than the optimal point.
>
> To be more specific, TCP would be at any time increasing or decreasing
> the congestion window. In other words, it will be moving in one
> direction (right or left) along the x axis of Fig. 1 of Getty's paper.
> Each RTT, the performance is measured in terms of delay and
> throughput. If there is a performance improvement, we keep moving in
> the same direction. If there is a performance loss, we change the
> direction.
>
> I tried to explain the algorithm here:
> https://github.com/jbarcelo/sweet-tcp-paper/blob/master/document.pdf?raw=true
>
> I am not an expert on TCP, so I decided to share it with this list to
> get some expert opinions.
Are you familiar with existing delay based algorithms ?
A known one is TCP Vegas.
Problem is that it would work well only if all flows would use it.
Alas, lot of flows (or non flows traffic) will still use Reno/cubic (or
no congestion at all) and they will clamp flows that are willing to
reduce delays.
So that's definitely not 'easy' ...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-07-09 19:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-07-09 17:38 Jaume Barcelo
2013-07-09 17:56 ` Stephen Hemminger
2013-07-09 19:10 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2013-07-09 19:33 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-07-09 21:37 ` Jaume Barcelo
2013-07-16 1:15 ` Lawrence Stewart
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