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From: Alex Burr <ajb44.geo@yahoo.com>
To: "bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net" <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: [Bloat] Fw:  Measuring Latency
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 10:51:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1410717104.12610.YahooMailNeo@web122503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1410691150.20919.YahooMailNeo@web122503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>




Oops, intended to CC the list...



> On Sunday, September 14, 2014 11:39 AM, Alex Burr <ajb44.geo@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sunday, September 14, 2014 12:32 AM, Jonathan Morton 
> <chromatix99@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>>  To expand on this: to measure one-way delay, you would need finely 
> synchronised clocks (to within a 
>>  couple of ms) at both ends.  The average consumer doesn't have that 
> sort of setup - not even if they 
>>  happen to use NTP.  So it's not a goal worth pursuing at this level - 
> save it for scientific 
>>  Investigations, where the necessary effort and equipment can be made 
> available.
> 
> 
> This is true for absolute one way delay. But since we are interested in the 
> variation
> with load, it's actually easier. When you take the difference of two delays, 
> the synchronisation offset cancels out, so you are left with just the drift. 
> That may still be an insurmountable problem, but I would suggest at least 
> putting timestamps in the packets, even if you don't estimate one-way delay 
> up-front. That way people can try and get clever with clients later, without 
> having to change the server.
> 
> Alex 
> 


      parent reply	other threads:[~2014-09-14 17:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-13 19:41 [Bloat] " Hal Murray
2014-09-13 19:48 ` Sebastian Moeller
2014-09-13 23:32   ` Jonathan Morton
2014-09-14 14:31     ` Neil Davies
2014-09-14 16:55       ` Sebastian Moeller
2014-09-14 17:26         ` Neil Davies
2014-09-14 16:57       ` Jonathan Morton
     [not found]     ` <1410691150.20919.YahooMailNeo@web122503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
2014-09-14 17:51       ` Alex Burr [this message]

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