From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ig0-x22e.google.com (mail-ig0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8656321F38C for ; Thu, 7 May 2015 20:54:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by igbhj9 with SMTP id hj9so11489944igb.1 for ; Thu, 07 May 2015 20:54:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:subject:from:to:cc:date:in-reply-to:references :content-type:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Lsq1BturHSAD3AMlOkkB8KJL0Gbs8iFl/ovTKaI9fws=; b=xOP2BYHSC2MbeVRptAKswWiVUPXycOVeAUlE/7ZUsMT4RtmkgS1D1EKNHMe0cSLXWP 364Rl/Ylek+AqggddKCXsezPQ3HvUldVJkOT4vzk66Mr8tJEwVwRKxUy1ak06CPbDUJa fZz2cm8kgRQVFGArFcJVR/ot2vSZPmz5kFRDE02aUfNQf+e/+ZiE+nw0VzEEV0KnOpRT ANMf+FIY8BPmITbfYM3gfUL553wE7Zfhor9oZ0jK+BIEnfJmDy17BNUCttBuyVdGQufp bwZzw0QbX7nmjmRFoypI149c8RyDX8HjSbucSXypSvYsry17fyb6uueoBeD1+8b/ISI0 iBKw== X-Received: by 10.50.221.98 with SMTP id qd2mr1797159igc.37.1431057294059; Thu, 07 May 2015 20:54:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.29.161.66] ([172.29.161.66]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 35sm2706006ior.34.2015.05.07.20.54.52 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 07 May 2015 20:54:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1431057292.22756.6.camel@edumazet-glaptop2.roam.corp.google.com> From: Eric Dumazet To: Dave Taht Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 20:54:52 -0700 In-Reply-To: References: <2288B614-B415-4017-A842-76E8F5DFDE4C@gmx.de> <553B06CE.1050209@superduper.net> <14ceed3c818.27f7.e972a4f4d859b00521b2b659602cb2f9@superduper.net> <0C930D43-A05B-48E2-BC01-792CAA72CAD1@gmx.de> <5549A1B8.50005@superduper.net> <9CF0E173-2CE5-4950-84D1-44EAEF174882@gmx.de> <14d2ed6f160.27f7.e972a4f4d859b00521b2b659602cb2f9@superduper.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4-0ubuntu2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] DSLReports Speed Test has latency measurement built-in X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2015 03:55:23 -0000 On Thu, 2015-05-07 at 16:09 -0700, Dave Taht wrote: > Recently I did some tests of 450+ flows (details on the cake mailing > list) against sch_fq which got hopelessly buried (10000 packets in > queue). cake and fq_pie did a lot better. Seriously, comparing sch_fq against fq_pie or fq_codel or cake is quite strange. sch_fq has no CoDel part, it doesn't drop packets, unless you hit some limit. First intent for fq was for hosts, to implement TCP pacing at low cost. Maybe you need an hybrid, and this is very possible to do that. I did recently one change in sch_fq. where non local flows can be hashed in a stochastic way. You could eventually add CoDel capability to such flows. http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/davem/net-next.git/commit/?id=06eb395fa9856b5a87cf7d80baee2a0ed3cdb9d7