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* [Bloat] speed - on dslreports?
@ 2017-01-10 21:34 Dave Taht
  2017-01-10 21:51 ` Aaron Wood
  2017-01-10 22:15 ` Jonathan Foulkes
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Dave Taht @ 2017-01-10 21:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bloat

This is from the first distanc-y test of the latest lede (lacking wifi
ATF tho) on a picostation M2HP, about the lowest end wifi router I
have in the field.

It's just as lovely as I hoped it would be but I don't know why it has
a "speed -"

The download is bottlenecked on the wifi, the upload bottlenecked at
the gateway,
on a *very busy network* currently running at 100/10 on comcast.

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/8695658

-- 
Dave Täht
Let's go make home routers and wifi faster! With better software!
http://blog.cerowrt.org

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* Re: [Bloat] speed - on dslreports?
  2017-01-10 21:34 [Bloat] speed - on dslreports? Dave Taht
@ 2017-01-10 21:51 ` Aaron Wood
  2017-01-10 22:15 ` Jonathan Foulkes
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Aaron Wood @ 2017-01-10 21:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dave Taht, bloat

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I've been seeing that as well, not sure what to make of it.
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 13:34 Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:

> This is from the first distanc-y test of the latest lede (lacking wifi
> ATF tho) on a picostation M2HP, about the lowest end wifi router I
> have in the field.
>
> It's just as lovely as I hoped it would be but I don't know why it has
> a "speed -"
>
> The download is bottlenecked on the wifi, the upload bottlenecked at
> the gateway,
> on a *very busy network* currently running at 100/10 on comcast.
>
> http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/8695658
>
> --
> Dave Täht
> Let's go make home routers and wifi faster! With better software!
> http://blog.cerowrt.org
> _______________________________________________
> Bloat mailing list
> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
>

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* Re: [Bloat] speed - on dslreports?
  2017-01-10 21:34 [Bloat] speed - on dslreports? Dave Taht
  2017-01-10 21:51 ` Aaron Wood
@ 2017-01-10 22:15 ` Jonathan Foulkes
  2017-01-11  3:44   ` Y
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Jonathan Foulkes @ 2017-01-10 22:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dave Taht; +Cc: bloat

The speed ‘-‘ is a recent change, as the user now needs to click the ‘Set Speed’ so the grading can be relative to the actual line provisioning. BTW- Only registered users can set that.

On my 12mbps Windstream DSL line, I get this result:
https://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/8700714

So an A for bloat but an F for speed, guess 12 is not the highest one can get on DSL (24Mbps is max), so half that and then minus the SQM QoS headroom (set for 10Mbps down) an actual measured 8.3 rates an F <shrug>

The D rating for ‘Quality’ bothers me, as it’s largely a side effect of the AQM pushing back to keep bloat down, and average people don’t get that, they just think they have a sucky line.

However, this line supports a house full of devices (60+) and two active work from home hight tech people, it can stream in HD any time of day or night and VoIP performance is excellent. FB never stalls and big news sites load quickly and completely. So from a user perspective, this 12Mbps DSL line is an A considering it’s DSL.

We really need a way to grade quality of experience.

- Jonathan

> On Jan 10, 2017, at 4:34 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> This is from the first distanc-y test of the latest lede (lacking wifi
> ATF tho) on a picostation M2HP, about the lowest end wifi router I
> have in the field.
> 
> It's just as lovely as I hoped it would be but I don't know why it has
> a "speed -"
> 
> The download is bottlenecked on the wifi, the upload bottlenecked at
> the gateway,
> on a *very busy network* currently running at 100/10 on comcast.
> 
> http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/8695658
> 
> -- 
> Dave Täht
> Let's go make home routers and wifi faster! With better software!
> http://blog.cerowrt.org
> _______________________________________________
> Bloat mailing list
> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat


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* Re: [Bloat] speed - on dslreports?
  2017-01-10 22:15 ` Jonathan Foulkes
@ 2017-01-11  3:44   ` Y
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Y @ 2017-01-11  3:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bloat

Hi .

I shall advise to set sfq child qdisc for ingress qdisc.
Quality will be getting good.
If you already did, Don't bother that :)

Yuta. 


2017-01-10 (火) の 17:15 -0500 に Jonathan Foulkes さんは書きました:
> The speed ‘-‘ is a recent change, as the user now needs to click the
> ‘Set Speed’ so the grading can be relative to the actual line
> provisioning. BTW- Only registered users can set that.
> 
> On my 12mbps Windstream DSL line, I get this result:
> https://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/8700714
> 
> So an A for bloat but an F for speed, guess 12 is not the highest one
> can get on DSL (24Mbps is max), so half that and then minus the SQM
> QoS headroom (set for 10Mbps down) an actual measured 8.3 rates an F
> <shrug>
> 
> The D rating for ‘Quality’ bothers me, as it’s largely a side effect
> of the AQM pushing back to keep bloat down, and average people don’t
> get that, they just think they have a sucky line.
> 
> However, this line supports a house full of devices (60+) and two
> active work from home hight tech people, it can stream in HD any time
> of day or night and VoIP performance is excellent. FB never stalls
> and big news sites load quickly and completely. So from a user
> perspective, this 12Mbps DSL line is an A considering it’s DSL.
> 
> We really need a way to grade quality of experience.
> 
> - Jonathan
> 
> > On Jan 10, 2017, at 4:34 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > This is from the first distanc-y test of the latest lede (lacking
> > wifi
> > ATF tho) on a picostation M2HP, about the lowest end wifi router I
> > have in the field.
> > 
> > It's just as lovely as I hoped it would be but I don't know why it
> > has
> > a "speed -"
> > 
> > The download is bottlenecked on the wifi, the upload bottlenecked
> > at
> > the gateway,
> > on a *very busy network* currently running at 100/10 on comcast.
> > 
> > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/8695658
> > 
> > -- 
> > Dave Täht
> > Let's go make home routers and wifi faster! With better software!
> > http://blog.cerowrt.org
> > _______________________________________________
> > Bloat mailing list
> > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
> > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Bloat mailing list
> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat

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