From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from nm20-vm6.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm20-vm6.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.96.248]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0106B3B29E for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 23:09:35 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s2048; t=1484107775; bh=GIYSJTnk2h7LkMOR1KZPEMHY/nXcVQWKXd/l7imsSpM=; h=Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=DT9S6vcdrc7Og5LU/jbwY/kHFQ+6pg21SaocKKZlGObCS0EEKXGCk7tNDVloXN+y40id+Uosc8JRFoXQZD6MvgjHxWIjhms2RkjUkTdLrugA3qGxQNbHLKAcFHPzdK81Q+UKE6Xr2RzSJXOe4qj8nLHNxA2dHMveahWn8QfdnoVqWDAqIL2athZUY10QfuWS+zryuUcVgZzN8D9vrul+YzqVK8uwOWjdV6n4H07OuWGvZdse16qDVF1YQj1BmAOTyazDClU0sTYp93iokMk2PyXoHUq7WIDDgva1YwvLGYfOIbv4xSkqpg+87hpk4eORIBR7p3ii1HJzXVFozHXRww== Received: from [212.82.98.61] by nm20.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jan 2017 04:09:35 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.73] by tm14.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jan 2017 04:09:31 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp110.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jan 2017 03:44:51 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 629672.57950.bm@smtp110.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: eWcmCs0VM1lTPgmVxj2N9PallCqn6YBAbHR7BQnC2tjWsy7 xBK0ovvB7av0sgDIUu4GNOJU.ctOHty9mxeTAEElAmzqNXPqwBQra6EzOAZ3 qo6JYmndTGIjl0xHLp_l.Jy_BntjamLP.dcaPvQQVKHgWMVgFa5fJbawXg.D xgaKUX_vMYkAYHCzvTkiISteH_XqDeip.xnREiUQPJSQlaQGCO3uUoarOLPH y8H8JrNIaDoz5UexJgLrRvpQYOo5NNs0akEeOLZeaZK23AEwQgMVoISfQR6w .cHTftvdJGDBuz0Zb7VzLcpIEAJfSGrkvzsO600glNXqfNhIxkeoZUL.Hx7a uvugPei3LM7wyz0wTcP620VmGYZqHbX4fZFxfbFr5SGiGVsl9UNW9iUWonBd AHYn1yPwmpDIBk.2PgCU0gnabAxozy.UPXh48KlMQkFUD2jtYjwxPm3eznLM _WuhBYMu.xjxRtvUH0qBeYHznxX8H6VkT8luRZhiWcG6DQiOZox3sxbykwx5 wGkJ2RITB3RDwpbltctIG2vMbUMY5vfqs6sNmMb3Q6F8bSadKNyR0AJ7bpMd wQnE97LpRM5WT3RxfTtQ7xBM- X-Yahoo-SMTP: R8REcOaswBA8tpUVQfvLNOMJ0vXRwYHSeLQ- Message-ID: <1484106286.7740.1.camel@yahoo.fr> From: Y To: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 12:44:46 +0900 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.22.3 (3.22.3-1.fc25) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Bloat] speed - on dslreports? X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 04:09:36 -0000 Hi . I shall advise to set sfq child qdisc for ingress qdisc. Quality will be getting good. If you already did, Don't bother that :) Yuta.=20 2017-01-10 (=E7=81=AB) =E3=81=AE 17:15 -0500 =E3=81=AB Jonathan Foulkes =E3= =81=95=E3=82=93=E3=81=AF=E6=9B=B8=E3=81=8D=E3=81=BE=E3=81=97=E3=81=9F: > The speed =E2=80=98-=E2=80=98 is a recent change, as the user now needs t= o click the > =E2=80=98Set Speed=E2=80=99 so the grading can be relative to the actual = line > provisioning. BTW- Only registered users can set that. >=20 > On my 12mbps Windstream DSL line, I get this result: > https://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/8700714 >=20 > So an A for bloat but an F for speed, guess 12 is not the highest one > can get on DSL (24Mbps is max), so half that and then minus the SQM > QoS headroom (set for 10Mbps down) an actual measured 8.3 rates an F > >=20 > The D rating for =E2=80=98Quality=E2=80=99 bothers me, as it=E2=80=99s la= rgely a side effect > of the AQM pushing back to keep bloat down, and average people don=E2=80= =99t > get that, they just think they have a sucky line. >=20 > However, this line supports a house full of devices (60+) and two > active work from home hight tech people, it can stream in HD any time > of day or night and VoIP performance is excellent. FB never stalls > and big news sites load quickly and completely. So from a user > perspective, this 12Mbps DSL line is an A considering it=E2=80=99s DSL. >=20 > We really need a way to grade quality of experience. >=20 > - Jonathan >=20 > > On Jan 10, 2017, at 4:34 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > >=20 > > This is from the first distanc-y test of the latest lede (lacking > > wifi > > ATF tho) on a picostation M2HP, about the lowest end wifi router I > > have in the field. > >=20 > > It's just as lovely as I hoped it would be but I don't know why it > > has > > a "speed -" > >=20 > > The download is bottlenecked on the wifi, the upload bottlenecked > > at > > the gateway, > > on a *very busy network* currently running at 100/10 on comcast. > >=20 > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/8695658 > >=20 > > --=C2=A0 > > Dave T=C3=A4ht > > Let's go make home routers and wifi faster! With better software! > > http://blog.cerowrt.org > > _______________________________________________ > > Bloat mailing list > > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat