From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pg0-x243.google.com (mail-pg0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c05::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0CA903B29E for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 17:27:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-pg0-x243.google.com with SMTP id 75so20763942pgf.3 for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 14:27:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=message-id:subject:from:to:cc:date:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AY2VUzkbIVoWTWda00wnjrIKZovwZS6ckIMq2IfbsYQ=; b=FBKBKuJls6UEtzanKnUIgeZDyuhnCj8OZYmSSjRPuDRkfHxQ+k83BaeXYJya0zgofb F0G6gePxPBzMpuTYVb/vLPL8j1y0cnomN3aLEd6F8dS/LodXXPhIiRVxVpP6rewjj+Al n5d8pSs5M/hMQy32mo7JBMR+s6rijcYzOxnIfeMRJm1qY6eESiswvUzZGXGsSinty8cV 9f1ENSv9HAgwMT3dvOZ+NMJlL3+3+K2X3Zsbe8uRMNh4RbFlNLNHmuC2kNJzoVCMGkN+ nGTma/alIY51GmN8mNMEpUpkl3z5VXwl7rRLtwoHs6MU4uyS3HfNU34AoyridRB36X6v 7jOw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:date:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AY2VUzkbIVoWTWda00wnjrIKZovwZS6ckIMq2IfbsYQ=; b=sKz/UZxo2/18/JU7xsintKZK7NQrwsLF8We2P9xhwGdmW7Hp1DbHuO5FpMOZoszBZj s60Nkwm/K+CF4OyG60nww4pW5Cy11oHVqeT+NI6FkfTE66se9+N3t9Kj0fG10fkw9CrQ sQstX1I562ZKwTuNiChIuh3xnw2rC3SVekubylImlKylnhh/QURLy6ipJ33AZCTaWsxs BC8sas2f5mP/e7N+CP1joBa0CpU0x8aePLOJi0ba5a+J5QZ9tAfnp1P1HbEnWPJF6RWh IcpGs96pidr+TBoJhNk4UpUiKLSLoa7bEbSjhslz3CUobtJCSkq/gh5tct74bBCs6tN2 IZPQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXK5NMWR7i4AUEqEvc6KY3dJNr6RlhcLfnyqCfy9tTydCOS7AWOQqzuDJfwlyEWwzw== X-Received: by 10.98.158.89 with SMTP id s86mr48882842pfd.33.1485383250332; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 14:27:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPv6:2620:0:1000:1704:901f:c554:68ed:6757? ([2620:0:1000:1704:901f:c554:68ed:6757]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id z70sm3399407pff.26.2017.01.25.14.27.29 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 25 Jan 2017 14:27:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1485383249.5145.67.camel@edumazet-glaptop3.roam.corp.google.com> From: Eric Dumazet To: "Steinar H. Gunderson" Cc: Neal Cardwell , bloat Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 14:27:29 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20170125222315.GB22074@sesse.net> References: <20170125220621.GA22074@sesse.net> <1485382325.5145.64.camel@edumazet-glaptop3.roam.corp.google.com> <20170125222315.GB22074@sesse.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4-0ubuntu2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Bloat] Initial tests with BBR in kernel 4.9 X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 22:27:31 -0000 On Wed, 2017-01-25 at 23:23 +0100, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 02:12:05PM -0800, Eric Dumazet wrote: > > Well, pacing is optional in sch_fq. > > > > Only the FQ part is not optional. > > Yeah, but who cares about the FQ part for an end host =) Well, we do care a lot, many hosts are actually sending data at full speed. It is always unpleasant when a single rogue UDP flow can steal your NIC.