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From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca>
Cc: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>, bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] high speed packet and protocol processing in userspace?
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 09:27:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1489681664.28631.221.camel@edumazet-glaptop3.roam.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <27209.1489679549@obiwan.sandelman.ca>

On Thu, 2017-03-16 at 11:52 -0400, Michael Richardson wrote:
> Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>     > Is it faster to execute 17 bpf vm instructions on (nearly) every
>     > packet, or to use all that old stuff?
> 
>     > bpf example for the babel protocol:
> 
> I have no data for you.  Andrew McGregor might know more?
> My understanding is that there is a JIT for ebpf.


ebpf is pretty fast.

> 
>     > B) Are there any means of easily abstracting deeper protocol processing
>     > into a higher level grammar, better than tcpdump? I found one tool,
>     > that I like conceptually - for deeply decoding a protocol -
> 
> tcpdump just exposes the libpcap compiler.  It has many annoying limitations.
> 
>     > I've googled, and thunk, and maybe I'm merely asking the wrong
>     > questions, and "the packet analysis tool to end all tools" already
>     > exists?
> 
> Yes, people have produced them, but they go nowhere because they are too
> specialized, or too general.  The question is: are you trying to build a tcp
> stack that punts packets at applications, or do "analysis" --- which I interpret
> to mean to collect statistics.

Note that you can use C to write your parser, then use LLVM to generate
native eBPF code.


> 
>     > C) Are vendors like mellonox or others doing network offloads parsing
>     > bpf or ebpf directly yet?
> 
> I don't know.

Netronome is (kind of)
drivers/net/ethernet/netronome/nfp



  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-16 16:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-16 15:19 Dave Taht
2017-03-16 15:52 ` Michael Richardson
2017-03-16 16:27   ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2017-03-16 16:44     ` Dave Taht
2017-03-16 17:32       ` Michael Richardson
2017-03-16 20:04         ` Dave Taht
2017-03-17  9:02     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-03-17 12:10       ` Daniel Borkmann
2017-03-17 20:11         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer

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