From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca>
Cc: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>, bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] high speed packet and protocol processing in userspace?
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 09:27:44 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1489681664.28631.221.camel@edumazet-glaptop3.roam.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <27209.1489679549@obiwan.sandelman.ca>
On Thu, 2017-03-16 at 11:52 -0400, Michael Richardson wrote:
> Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Is it faster to execute 17 bpf vm instructions on (nearly) every
> > packet, or to use all that old stuff?
>
> > bpf example for the babel protocol:
>
> I have no data for you. Andrew McGregor might know more?
> My understanding is that there is a JIT for ebpf.
ebpf is pretty fast.
>
> > B) Are there any means of easily abstracting deeper protocol processing
> > into a higher level grammar, better than tcpdump? I found one tool,
> > that I like conceptually - for deeply decoding a protocol -
>
> tcpdump just exposes the libpcap compiler. It has many annoying limitations.
>
> > I've googled, and thunk, and maybe I'm merely asking the wrong
> > questions, and "the packet analysis tool to end all tools" already
> > exists?
>
> Yes, people have produced them, but they go nowhere because they are too
> specialized, or too general. The question is: are you trying to build a tcp
> stack that punts packets at applications, or do "analysis" --- which I interpret
> to mean to collect statistics.
Note that you can use C to write your parser, then use LLVM to generate
native eBPF code.
>
> > C) Are vendors like mellonox or others doing network offloads parsing
> > bpf or ebpf directly yet?
>
> I don't know.
Netronome is (kind of)
drivers/net/ethernet/netronome/nfp
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-03-16 16:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-03-16 15:19 Dave Taht
2017-03-16 15:52 ` Michael Richardson
2017-03-16 16:27 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2017-03-16 16:44 ` Dave Taht
2017-03-16 17:32 ` Michael Richardson
2017-03-16 20:04 ` Dave Taht
2017-03-17 9:02 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-03-17 12:10 ` Daniel Borkmann
2017-03-17 20:11 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
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