From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from masada.superduper.net (unknown [IPv6:2001:ba8:1f1:f263::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D1F0221F0F2 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 2015 21:42:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mobile-166-171-251-191.mycingular.net ([166.171.251.191] helo=[10.144.228.34]) by masada.superduper.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_MD5:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YlrvT-00031I-MU; Sat, 25 Apr 2015 05:42:51 +0100 From: Simon Barber To: jb Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 21:42:44 -0700 Message-ID: <14ceee27200.27f7.e972a4f4d859b00521b2b659602cb2f9@superduper.net> In-Reply-To: References: <22118EDD-F497-46F3-AC6A-A75C389DFBAB@isoc.org> <553B026B.70105@superduper.net> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 AquaMail/1.5.0.19 (build: 2100846) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------14ceee28265170a27f742df32b0" X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) Cc: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net Subject: Re: [Bloat] delay-under-load really helps diagnose real world problems X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2015 04:43:26 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------------14ceee28265170a27f742df32b0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This is a great tool. Just ran another test from my cell, this time not selecting the 'desktop' mode, and choosing 4G as my access method. Similar results to the last one. http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/359928 Perhaps on the mobile platforms you could include a button on the results page to show the latency graph, but not actually load it until the button is pressed. Simon Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On April 24, 2015 9:13:12 PM jb wrote: > Apologies, it is sorted. Try now on mobile. There is a new box coloured > purple! > > Multiple issues, main one being the Highcharts charting js plugin is quite > heavy at 200kb, so I am opting to not use it for the results page on mobile > at least not yet. Perhaps if one is on 4G I should not worry,. > > However now, either way, the response is displayed during the test (in the > purple box) and also stored. > So viewing past tests in desktop mode still shows everything. > > > On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Simon Barber wrote: > > > I ran some tests from my cellphone - a Samsung Note 3. I had to select > > 'request desktop site' as an option in the chrome browser, and not choose > > '4G' as my connection type (I chose DSL), to get the latency measurement to > > show up. The results are great though. > > > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/355893 > > > > Download bloat (buffer in the cell site) is bad, but not absolutely > > horrible, at about 1.1 seconds. Upload direction is terrible - 5.8 seconds > > by the end of the test, and would probably have been higher given a longer > > test. I'm assuming that this buffer is in the modem in the handset, and is > > likely an almost infinite buffer. > > > > Simon > > > > > > On 4/24/2015 7:58 AM, Matthew Ford wrote: > > > >> On 23 Apr 2015, at 22:55, Bill Ver Steeg (versteb) > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> So, hats off to Justin! > >>> > >> A big +1 to what Bill said from me. This tool is great and has already > >> helped me improve my own home network setup. > >> > >> A colleague noted that selecting ‘Public WiFi’ as connection type results > >> in no bloat measurements. Which connection types are bloat measurements > >> enabled for? What’s the plan for the others? > >> > >> Mat > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Bloat mailing list > >> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > >> > > > > ------------14ceee28265170a27f742df32b0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

This is a great tool. Just ran another test from my cell, this time not selecting the 'desktop'  mode, and choosing 4G as my access method.  Similar results to the last one.

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/359928

Perhaps on the mobile platforms you could include a button on the results page to show the latency graph, but not actually load it until the button is pressed.

Simon

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On April 24, 2015 9:13:12 PM jb <justin@dslr.net> wrote:

Apologies, it is sorted. Try now on mobile. There is a new box coloured purple!

Multiple issues, main one being the Highcharts charting js plugin is quite heavy at 200kb, so I am opting to not use it for the results page on mobile at least not yet. Perhaps if one is on 4G I should not worry,.

However now, either way, the response is displayed during the test (in the purple box) and also stored.
So viewing past tests in desktop mode still shows everything.


On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Simon Barber <simon@superduper.net> wrote:
I ran some tests from my cellphone - a Samsung Note 3. I had to select 'request desktop site' as an option in the chrome browser, and not choose '4G' as my connection type (I chose DSL), to get the latency measurement to show up. The results are great though.

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/355893

Download bloat (buffer in the cell site) is bad, but not absolutely horrible, at about 1.1 seconds. Upload direction is terrible - 5.8 seconds by the end of the test, and would probably have been higher given a longer test. I'm assuming that this buffer is in the modem in the handset, and is likely an almost infinite buffer.

Simon


On 4/24/2015 7:58 AM, Matthew Ford wrote:
On 23 Apr 2015, at 22:55, Bill Ver Steeg (versteb) <versteb@cisco.com> wrote:

So, hats off to Justin!
A big +1 to what Bill said from me. This tool is great and has already helped me improve my own home network setup.

A colleague noted that selecting ‘Public WiFi’ as connection type results in no bloat measurements. Which connection types are bloat measurements enabled for? What’s the plan for the others?

Mat
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