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From: Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca>
To: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
Cc: john <email@matrix8.org>, bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Bloat] Terminology for Laypeople
Date: Sun, 16 May 2021 16:44:13 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <15155.1621197853@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <487B5EAD-6FEE-482C-919E-D1F1B7166530@gmail.com>

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Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> wrote:
    > So instead of just loading ready-made bags of firewood into my trailer,
    > I have to wait for the trimming team to get around to taking the
    > branches off "my" tree which is waiting behind a dozen others.  The
    > branches then go into a big stack of branches waiting for the chopping
    > machine.  When they eventually get around to chopping those, the
    > firewood is carefully put in a separate pile, waiting for the weighing
    > and bagging.

Your analogy is definitely the result of optimizing for batches rather than latency.
(JIT manufacturing in general and much of _The Goal_ talks about the business side of
this, btw)

But, I don't think that it's a great explanation for grandma.
The fetching milk analogy is a bit better, but still not great.

John@matrix8, how did it work for you?

Explaining this is pretty important.

(Thanks for the slide Jonathan)

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-16 20:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-12 15:50 Ingemar Johansson S
2021-05-12 21:51 ` Dave Collier-Brown
2021-05-16 18:48   ` john
2021-05-16 19:20     ` Jonathan Morton
2021-05-16 20:44       ` Michael Richardson [this message]
2021-05-16 21:32         ` Aaron Wood
2021-05-16 21:33         ` Jonathan Morton
2021-05-16 23:02           ` Jonathan Morton
2021-05-17  5:18     ` Simon Barber
2021-05-17  5:24       ` Jonathan Morton
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-05-05  0:02 Livingood, Jason
2021-05-05  0:14 ` James R Cutler
2021-05-05  7:41   ` Erik Auerswald
2021-05-06 14:38     ` Dave Taht
2021-05-05  1:41 ` Matt Mathis
2021-05-05 15:05 ` Neil Davies
2021-05-06 13:23 ` Jason Iannone
2021-05-06 13:40   ` David Lang
2021-05-06 18:00     ` Dave Taht
2021-05-10 20:10 ` Jonathan Foulkes
2021-05-11 21:26   ` Greg White

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