Given QUIC uses UDP and does congestion control essentially within the browser, it seems that maybe one could built latency under load measuring into the QUIC infrastructure in the browser. Maybe we don't have to create JS tools like fast.com to get good and regular measurements of bufferbloat. Maybe it could be a part of browsers. Maybe web site designers could ask for the current "latency-under-load" value from the browser DOM. -- ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh networks [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | IoT architect [ ] mcr@sandelman.ca http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails [