From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.22]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA7AA21F508 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 11:10:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hms-beagle-7.home.lan ([217.247.196.91]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MSIf1-1ZYFe33x6Z-00TSK5 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 20:10:13 +0200 From: Sebastian Moeller Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 20:10:09 +0200 References: To: bloat Message-Id: <17A671BF-59B9-41B2-B629-FFB211A134F4@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:GG8u+IVc/Q1syy8zFqhTh0bBVBunyKKhZB4aaBXXcp0YIiYlMQd VWWuJ5f/+Mai9BC5UXZxWwA+EDHHUnIl8iTX2VXzDy2f3mLVhA46t0awDwltGprta6A/Pi2 1y1TViFuNDTtt+dBiOLrpUrRxoDL6+wUPXBpblAKdshsjtqmBXeTT9QIwjZmYIFgDJA6/yj R4btREwMnSPiyKiC55HTg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:MKf6c02o+TM=:502cgnX11MMCaMS0gSgSaC kMwmYr0ciSna5L9LgX2GOTIB3iwmMFB3K3540cCM+5HxuRfc4LAaNaipol9wgrL7deSj5n7dZ WyxiDcvBpdhZltInGbk1SJczuZePQIAzYh51sL/809q25jJjl5cpgH+Jktw7X5GqNAUZqmnGS W+UgemJpBo16jgfk/xx6m+uN+KHoioxWOfsA7Stok7UAddHlBDXPg+uDgMgMaBAgTNjy1X1y1 Skw0ABhziZNY6R7AkwsS/BVKg1WAub4YjyQKt+sj2p4nTq/fukzGNI5xAKWbzh6naFkezuC1a InUnSGHHEgg0D6+wNsBcM2TUYGdT5EGoRjskavkx7dX1szA7HFoYrCyQKkner3YlJzT5PK6H7 KIDBfTyAS23D93uuMYmnPuHGPUM6Wgq+Qp2IAP1zsvHLT+foIPi1DuuTFSYgCUHKCfocTvbmP rxoCYpvRxr/JN5rDc3+Ox9WplnTHcmWyAp3T4pW3kqc1MgMjUkwKxT+XrsZNxYOeOLiQnGYT0 73AGbpph9wLVK99cbfnLMUzLAw4z2mEoh5OctsmU7Y+UfIXEZriKyrOyx+FkOggTztQILXYfr uo3rsBkQ+3Pcn2FWQibbcvrVR6n1/p7hFncYX/hCtckhDn0uy5TYnAZkNK07OxF8i8y0E9uLS XGs4og4cSUtUYkz1lfAWsHHfOXBQUDYKNduXhuRPY0auB2EJC8C4esVvu4+yOK+mqmgY= Subject: [Bloat] Fwd: sweeping up the bloat X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 18:10:44 -0000 Dear list, it seems my reply-all skill got a bit rusty, so here I go again ;) = (threading might be broken?) On Jun 16, 2015, at 19:53 , Dave Taht wrote: > [...] > Quic does pacing, so far as I know, entirely in userspace, or does it > rely on sch_fq to do so? Should a VOIP app or server like freeswitch > use it? [=85] I thought a voip app will pace simply by virtue of having to collect = 10-20ms seconds worth of audio before packing this up and send it off. I = have not looked at packet captures but my H0 is that there should be one = UDP packet every 20ms, which I would call natural or data-driven pacing. = I would not be too amazed if in reality instead of 1 packet per 20ms the = app would send N packets every N*20ms; sad, yes, but not amazed. Best Regards Sebastian