From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-la0-x235.google.com (mail-la0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F7C921F33D for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 01:31:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-la0-f53.google.com with SMTP id ge10so8322908lab.12 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 01:31:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=WAiJoYzfk60pGEdQL2lGQrrQ3rwGFjDNJe0DDAfG+aE=; b=TGb8VvuqreTQ9yEtUKwQ1565ZJbXQ4jxydTzbKvXrGANelhdwa3E8w7g1sE1NEVR80 USBe3r9++wsQ1C2GxXcCapaoeqhwwhzwr2CrMw3GXUy11PHXizm8U/v8RXGhFSWpRDVv nktdmGHhX18d6/f/0gjwnr66hpTwtGoX9KpwtyXTTJVOE9tgUtUPVJHMruZmjCpLZ67i kUpqRYJ3R2A5sFuRVKZe0yPJL0to5JTDweEglyeqbZ3y+PwnSLWD7nOGJpLLlvkj1Ywy +zaC1JxtyuE1dHlZWJ1fS0ezDl8p4O1rwCct/TSmk5oEEIYwLwY2NpaWG525JW4ieLzO GP9w== X-Received: by 10.152.170.167 with SMTP id an7mr1498653lac.94.1411461111880; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 01:31:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bass.home.chromatix.fi (87-93-126-50.bb.dnainternet.fi. [87.93.126.50]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ap7sm4554843lbd.26.2014.09.23.01.31.50 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 23 Sep 2014 01:31:50 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 11:31:48 +0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <198858D8-DD2D-4B31-9CD2-4F1B19B02D3B@gmail.com> References: To: Mikael Abrahamsson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Cc: bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] I feel an urge to update this X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 08:32:24 -0000 On 23 Sep, 2014, at 8:48 am, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > I just don't see how we can make things work well when we try to = create TCP to handle everything from 1500ms to 0.1ms of RTT, and = everything from 19200bps to 100GE in speed. Move that lower bound down to 2400bps. People are still using Iridium! http://www.revk.uk/2014/09/back-to-future-i-mean-past.html - Jonathan Morton