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From: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
To: Luca Muscariello <luca.muscariello@gmail.com>
Cc: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>,
	Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net,
	bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] [Make-wifi-fast] Van Jacobson's slides on timing wheels at netdevconf
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2018 17:38:22 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1A06B0BB-4B2F-4E94-B947-EF41BCC3F18C@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHx=1M707THPD1FoD+V=9BdVBKYVbzDX09t7yrdoA4hGVcXH6g@mail.gmail.com>

> On 20 Jul, 2018, at 5:47 pm, Luca Muscariello <luca.muscariello@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> and C) you can implement any packet scheduler using a timing wheel using virtual times.

To do this perfectly, you have to assume that no packets will arrive within your scheduling horizon which should be scheduled within that horizon.

An example of such a situation would be sparse flows in DRR++, which is a key part of fq_codel and Cake.  So to implement DRR++ using timing wheels, you have to choose your scheduling horizon carefully so as to minimise the delay to sparse packets.

Given that task scheduling latency in Linux is on the order of 1ms, a horizon of this magnitude could be acceptable.  But dedicated hardware could do better still.

 - Jonathan Morton


  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-21 14:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-20 14:09 [Bloat] " Dave Taht
2018-07-20 14:47 ` [Bloat] [Make-wifi-fast] " Luca Muscariello
2018-07-21 14:38   ` Jonathan Morton [this message]
2018-07-23 12:52     ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-07-23 15:36       ` Dave Taht
2018-07-23 17:26         ` dpreed
2018-07-21 13:19 ` [Bloat] " Matthias Tafelmeier

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