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From: Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de>
To: "Robert Chacón" <robert.chacon@jackrabbitwireless.com>,
	"Robert Chacón via Bloat" <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	dan <dandenson@gmail.com>
Cc: bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	libreqos <libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] [LibreQoS] gamebench quote
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 09:41:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1A0A3366-3907-4F4E-A055-525A3CBDAC2A@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOZyJovi5PzZgqgkyBkM4+8wZonTuHZGV23wMNhh5pETCjnfJg@mail.gmail.com>

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Hi Robert,

This is surprisingly rich in useful information and quite lean on marketing (given that this is marketing material having easily accessible links to source material is unusually open*). Nice. 

Regards
        Sebastian

*) Personally that approach would likely reel me in as customer, if I lived in your service area ;)


On 14 November 2022 00:16:57 CET, "Robert Chacón via Bloat" <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>Same here. We compete primarily against Charter Spectrum in the suburbs.
>Gamers and twitch streamers switch to us frequently due to the high upload
>bloat and jitter on Spectrum's network.
>We made a page on our website <https://jackrabbitwireless.com/performance/>
>that tries to educate prospective clients about latency and bloat. I added
>the GameBench quote to it (thanks, Dave!)
>Surprisingly, some people do read it and it helps ease their minds about
>"speed" when they're used to being bombarded with messaging about needing
>gigabit bandwidth.
>
>> I'm happy enough if TDS and Spectrum take their sweet time figuring out
>that latency is important :D
>
>This! That and their inability to really do whole-home WiFi at scale helps
>WISPs offer a true performance answer to cable internet.
>
>On Sun, Nov 13, 2022 at 3:56 PM dan via LibreQoS <
>libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>
>> This is definitely our focus.  We preach low latency first and better
>> uploads second, downloads are a distant third.  We do have to advertise the
>> faster speeds just to get into the conversation because Spectrum for
>> example and now TDS are all about 1G or 2G services.  See my other email
>> though, Spectrum's latency and jitter is garbage, TDS is actually worse
>> than that to many services but I don't have a remote login to a TDS site at
>> the moment.  I'm 15ms more from AWS Oregon on TDS than Spectrum, and I'm
>> 20ms better than Spectrum on Lumen DIA.
>>
>> I'm happy enough if TDS and Spectrum take their sweet time figuring out
>> that latency is important :D
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 13, 2022 at 3:52 PM Dave Taht via LibreQoS <
>> libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://www.gamebench.net/network-performance-and-gamer-experience-the-us-edition/
>>>
>>> "Overall, the consistently reinforced takeaway is that latency has now
>>> clearly overtaken broadband speed as the focus area for network
>>> providers seeking to provide – and guarantee and commercially benefit
>>> from – optimum experience in both online multiplayer and cloud
>>> gaming."
>>>
>>> --
>>> This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work:
>>>
>>> https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-6981366665607352320-FXtz
>>> Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> LibreQoS mailing list
>>> LibreQoS@lists.bufferbloat.net
>>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/libreqos
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> LibreQoS mailing list
>> LibreQoS@lists.bufferbloat.net
>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/libreqos
>>
>
>
>-- 
>Robert Chacón
>CEO | JackRabbit Wireless LLC <http://jackrabbitwireless.com>
>Dev | LibreQoS.io

-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-11-14  8:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-13 22:51 [Bloat] " Dave Taht
2022-11-13 22:56 ` [Bloat] [LibreQoS] " dan
2022-11-13 23:16   ` Robert Chacón
2022-11-13 23:20     ` dan
2022-11-13 23:23       ` Hayden Simon
2022-11-14  8:41     ` Sebastian Moeller [this message]
2022-11-14 22:18       ` MORTON JR., AL
2022-11-14 22:29         ` dan

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