Hi Robert, This is surprisingly rich in useful information and quite lean on marketing (given that this is marketing material having easily accessible links to source material is unusually open*). Nice. Regards Sebastian *) Personally that approach would likely reel me in as customer, if I lived in your service area ;) On 14 November 2022 00:16:57 CET, "Robert Chacón via Bloat" wrote: >Same here. We compete primarily against Charter Spectrum in the suburbs. >Gamers and twitch streamers switch to us frequently due to the high upload >bloat and jitter on Spectrum's network. >We made a page on our website >that tries to educate prospective clients about latency and bloat. I added >the GameBench quote to it (thanks, Dave!) >Surprisingly, some people do read it and it helps ease their minds about >"speed" when they're used to being bombarded with messaging about needing >gigabit bandwidth. > >> I'm happy enough if TDS and Spectrum take their sweet time figuring out >that latency is important :D > >This! That and their inability to really do whole-home WiFi at scale helps >WISPs offer a true performance answer to cable internet. > >On Sun, Nov 13, 2022 at 3:56 PM dan via LibreQoS < >libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > >> This is definitely our focus. We preach low latency first and better >> uploads second, downloads are a distant third. We do have to advertise the >> faster speeds just to get into the conversation because Spectrum for >> example and now TDS are all about 1G or 2G services. See my other email >> though, Spectrum's latency and jitter is garbage, TDS is actually worse >> than that to many services but I don't have a remote login to a TDS site at >> the moment. I'm 15ms more from AWS Oregon on TDS than Spectrum, and I'm >> 20ms better than Spectrum on Lumen DIA. >> >> I'm happy enough if TDS and Spectrum take their sweet time figuring out >> that latency is important :D >> >> On Sun, Nov 13, 2022 at 3:52 PM Dave Taht via LibreQoS < >> libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: >> >>> >>> https://www.gamebench.net/network-performance-and-gamer-experience-the-us-edition/ >>> >>> "Overall, the consistently reinforced takeaway is that latency has now >>> clearly overtaken broadband speed as the focus area for network >>> providers seeking to provide – and guarantee and commercially benefit >>> from – optimum experience in both online multiplayer and cloud >>> gaming." >>> >>> -- >>> This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work: >>> >>> https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-6981366665607352320-FXtz >>> Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC >>> _______________________________________________ >>> LibreQoS mailing list >>> LibreQoS@lists.bufferbloat.net >>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/libreqos >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> LibreQoS mailing list >> LibreQoS@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/libreqos >> > > >-- >Robert Chacón >CEO | JackRabbit Wireless LLC >Dev | LibreQoS.io -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.